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Old 08-16-2012, 06:38 AM
 
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I wouldn't mind boycotting China but it's near impossible when you shop at Wal-Mart.
It is very difficult to boycott Chinese products in general no matter where one shops. It is simply not practical. But if one has a choice between Chinese and American made products it makes sense to buy American when possible.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:42 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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How can you boycott your landlord?

We already have been colonized. We owe our firstborn to the Chinese - b/c we are in debt to them for generations to come.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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How can you boycott your landlord?

We already have been colonized. We owe our firstborn to the Chinese - b/c we are in debt to them for generations to come.
For the foreseeable future, China won't call in our debt. We need each other way too much. China needs the United States to export to, and if they want their money, they lose a massive trading partner. Also, I find it unlikely that we will ever pay up, even if demanded.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:56 AM
 
Location: planet octupulous is nearing earths atmosphere
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How can you boycott your landlord?

We already have been colonized. We owe our firstborn to the Chinese - b/c we are in debt to them for generations to come.

we just keep given them the crappy paper money. when push comes to shove we will just boot them out of our country..
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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Ooh, that's not in good taste. That's what the British did to the Chinese while they were in one of their civil unrest grace periods... it allowed china to be conquered, but its not very a human thing to do to conquer them by poisoning their people. Your (I hope joking) idea is rather in horrible distaste as the Chinese had a history of being pilaged in much the same "Christian" way.

Why don't you believe in Free Market Capitalism? The Chinese government has strict death laws on drug-addicts (and the such) that might allow the West to once again remove them from the position at the top they have always had historically, before the industrial revolution brought about by scientific advances in technology.

Perhaps the Mexican and Canadian cartels have decided that it's our turn to be faced with decline because of increased drug use and factionism.
we just export high Grade pot and the problem comes when we get cocaine from out of mexico flowing up to Canada that is then sold here due to high profit margins and it create alot of addicts and violence since not much money there would not be much money selling B.C. Bud locally since the market would be flooded and exportinf pot it is a $20 Billion doller a year industry for B.C. so it would kill our economy and the business of growing and exporting high grade pot employs 20,000 people thst would lose their should be legal job of growing a plant that has other uses pratical and economic use besides tyhe THC contnet but it cam be used to make clothes and be a source of paper that replaces the need to cut down trees to make into pulp for paper.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:09 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I'm freaked out at the thought that China may try to "colonize" the U.S. See 45 Signs That China Is Colonizing America. It's clear the government (Democrat or Republican) is going to tip toe around the issue and not do anything meaningful. It will take the American people leading a movement to boycott products made in China and pay a higher price for home-grown products for American corporations to take notice and reduce outsourcing.

Anyone willing to take this step with me?
[I know that some things will be impossible to find 100% authentically made in US like cell phones & laptops, so as a compromise, I'd rather use a competitor (even if foreign) that does not make things in China vs. American companies who manufacture in China.
People like apple.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:22 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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For the foreseeable future, China won't call in our debt. We need each other way too much. China needs the United States to export to, and if they want their money, they lose a massive trading partner. Also, I find it unlikely that we will ever pay up, even if demanded.
I have been screaming about this whole China connection since the late 90s.

What we have done is export our manufacturing to China and in the process, helped them build the infrastructure that we lost. Here in NC, our furniture and textile industries have been decimated. Sure, some furniture factories are still operational and even still owned by Americans. BUT - they basically import parts from China (and the Philippines) and then assemble items at those factories. Hundreds of thousands of jobs were lost in NC alone.

As for the textile industry, it went bye-bye. Now, major brands that were developed and manufactured in NC are owned by Chinese investors and the product (such as Martex) is still being produced, but the quality sucks.

So we taught the Chinese all our manufacturing processes, and we helped them build factories . . . and trained their workers. This created a surge of job opps for the CHinese, who desperately needed those jobs. Now, 15 years later, those folks who started out making $.50 an hour have demanded higher wages, as their standard of living rose and their demand for products increased.

Now that we have closed our manufacturing plants (and yes, we have basically closed them all - from textiles to shipbuilding) . . . the Chinese have an industrial complex, trained workers, and higher wages. And with higher wages, the cost to manufacture those goods has gone UP.

So all those owners of companies in America, who sold to Chinese, or invested in Chinese workers/plants, are no longer able to manufacture the same items for the same low cost they were getting back in 2000.

And on top of it, with higher wages . . . the Chinese are now needing those refrigerators, blue jeans, and chairs themselves. They don't NEED to export items. And they sure as heck don't need to import anything, except FOOD and OIL.

Meanwhile, we keep borrowing from China. And yes, they can call that debt in. But they won't. Not until our country has become completely dependent on their goods, which will then be priced as high as what they were when we manufactured them. But there won't be a DAMN THING we can do about it - cause we no longer have the facilities to make those towels, those plastic goods, those shoes, those baby cribs.

We have become a service driven country. Jobs are either retail or healthcare. We depend on getting our goods from another country. Other than teaching or some IT jobs (many of wh/ we have outsourced to India, btw) . . . what jobs will be available in the future? Teaching, healthcare, manual labor and service jobs (retail, food industry) and whatever farming is left.

Did you know that the Chinese have bought up thousands of acres of land here? And farm it?

We are already a colony and within 10 years, folks will realize just how indebted we are to China, not just with the Treasury Department, but with our total reliance on imports from China.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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I think most of you do not understand what a colony is.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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A boycott is unnecessary. Instituting a countervailing tariff that would eliminate the price advantage of Chinese manufactured goods attributable to slave wages, environmental pollution and government subsidy would do quite well. Then the Chinese, and all the other low cost importers, would have to compete on quality not price. That would be good for American manufacturers, workers and consumers. It would be harmful to American investors that put their money overseas instead of their own country. IMHO - They deserve to be harmed.
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Old 08-16-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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I think most of you do not understand what a colony is.
I think most of us do.

The Chinese systematically colonized this country. It has been a process and we fell right into it.

They don't have to go to war with us and be the victors to claim ownership - they "effectively" already own us. We owe them TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

Officially declaring us a colony of China and giving up our sovereign rights as a nation is not even the issue. Do you think China wants to pick up the tab for all our social services? NOT HARDLY . . . they legally already have the upper hand - cause they hold our IOUs.

And pray tell what happens if they should decide not to lend us another penny? Let's say they don't call the debt in . . . they just say - enough is enough.

They don't have to arrive on our shores with battleships. We will have destroyed ourselves, b/c the minute that happens, inflation goes through the roof, the dollar plummets . . .

No one wants to think about the realities of what this debt has really cost us and will continue to cost us.
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