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Old 08-16-2012, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Surely Obama's policies have been divisive, but the key word here is 'tried'. He made no special effort to create a division. The only people who think that are borderline psychotic conspiracy theorists.

So if you believe it is Obama's super-secret mission to destroy America, then fine. The rest of us can have a rational opinion on how much he has failed without considering such spurious notions.
The most used words in Obama speak are middle class. Just more of his attempt to create class struggle in the nation. It is his favorite method of trying to create hard feelings toward the "rich" as he calls so many of our people. Anybody who can't see what they are attempting to do with those continual mentions of the three classes may well be lacking enough in intelligence to be swayed by that talk.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Really? You don't think he TRIED to demonize the wealthy by saying they need to pay their "fair share" when every governmental statistic shows they actually pay more than their fair share?

He has certainly tried and in some cases succeeded at dividing the country along class lines.
I agree with you ,totally, but he has never defined that "fair share" stuff so we don't know what he really means by that.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Really? You don't think he TRIED to demonize the wealthy by saying they need to pay their "fair share" when every governmental statistic shows they actually pay more than their fair share?

He has certainly tried and in some cases succeeded at dividing the country along class lines.
And what do you call the last 30 years of Republican politics attacking the poor & union members?
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:47 AM
 
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Please describe these attacks.
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And what do you call the last 30 years of Republican politics attacking the poor & union members?
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Please describe these attacks.
Lol... do I really need to lay out the attacks on Unions & the poor?

Okay... unions -- Greedy? Self-serving? Greedy? Corrupt? Do any of those ring a bell?

How about the poor? Lazy? Thieving? They don't pair their fair share?
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:53 AM
 
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And what do you call the last 30 years of Republican politics attacking the poor & union members?
Lol attacking overpaid retards? Seriously?

Lets see some examples
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:54 AM
 
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He is one of the more moderate presidents we've seen in a while.

It's your tv hosts and radio show people that created the polarization with the massive amounts of people in this country lacking brains.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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And what do you call the last 30 years of Republican politics attacking the poor & union members?
Ronald Reagan, Scott Walker and other conservatives didn't "attack" the unions and the naive minority who buy their lies.

They simply called attention to their naivete, deceit, and occasional thug tactics.

And a majority of the real working public recognized this, and still does.

Hopefully, some day we'll finish the job.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:55 AM
 
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Lol... do I really need to lay out the attacks on Unions & the poor?

Okay... unions -- Greedy? Self-serving? Greedy? Corrupt? Do any of those ring a bell?

How about the poor? Lazy? Thieving? They don't pair their fair share?
Specifics.

Are unions greedy? All evidence points to yes.

Are they corrupt? Again, all evidence points to yes.

Lets see specific examples where they were "attacked".
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Lol attacking overpaid retards? Seriously?

Lets see some examples
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Ronald Reagan, Scott Walker and other conservatives didn't "attack" the unions and the naive minority who buy their lies.

They simply called attention to their naivete, deceit, and occasional thug tactics.

And a majority of the real working public recognized this, and still does.

Hopefully, some day we'll finish the job.
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Specifics.

Are unions greedy? All evidence points to yes.

Are they corrupt? Again, all evidence points to yes.


Lets see specific examples where they were "attacked".
Lol... Game, set, match.

But let me see if I understand your "logic"

Calling the rich greedy = class warfare
Calling union member greedy = telling the truth

Saying the rich don't pay their fair share = class warfare
Saying the poor don't pay their fair share = telling the truth

Did I sum up your points correctly?

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