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View Poll Results: Should seatbelt laws exist?
Yes 190 62.91%
No 104 34.44%
Unsure 8 2.65%
Voters: 302. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-18-2012, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Then why do you support seat belt laws that facilitate such horror?
Sorry pal, you have not proven that this ever happened. Show us a link to the actual accident.

 
Old 08-18-2012, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Niflheim
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It takes a whopping 3 sec to buckle up, if that is inconvenient and takes too much time I wonder what other foolish decisions are made.

If you're refusing just because the authoreties made it a law...I think there are other more serious issues we could be fighting.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Even if true, you are talking about one instance. Do you want me to post links on how seat belts have saved lives. I'm afraid it would be pages and pages long. What don't you get about seat belts saving lives. Surely you can't deny that.
I don't like supporting laws that cause 5 year old girls to experience agonizing pain while burning to death due to stupid laws.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 09:31 PM
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Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Yes for minors - the state should ensure basic safety standards for children who are unable to make completely sound judgments to prevent them from reckless adults who don't buckle them in.

No for adults. It's not the government's job to protect people from themselves. Why not outlaw Big Macs, cigarettes, etc? In my opinion, liberty means that people are free to make their own decisions as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of someone else. Even if those decisions are bad.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Originally Posted by Type O Negative View Post
It takes a whopping 3 sec to buckle up, if that is inconvenient and takes too much time I wonder what other foolish decisions are made.

If you're refusing just because the authoreties made it a law...I think there are other more serious issues we could be fighting.
Your identifying your blood type right off the bat speaks volumes.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Niflheim
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Your identifying your blood type right off the bat speaks volumes.
Has nothing to do with my blood type at all thank you very much.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Shoot -here in Southern California the bail was $110 - after court fees.
Do you wear a seat belt preparing for take off or landing in an airplane? Or, do you ignore the instructions given by the flight attendants?
 
Old 08-18-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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I remember my father taking the family on a Sunday drive with a Budweiser and kids standing up in the back of the station wagon in the 70s.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Sorry pal, you have not proven that this ever happened. Show us a link to the actual accident.
Are links the end all of any debate?

I got my inforation from a local newspaper - I can also tell you about a lady who was tied up and burned to death on 7/9/99 in South Whittier, CA at the intersection of Florence Ave and Inez St - will you say that I am wrong about that just becuase I can't provide a link? She was kidnapped from the corner of Imperial Blvd. and San Pedro Ave in Los Angeles too,

I'm sorry that you weren't aroud prior to 1996 - when people didn't have instant access to the Internet unless they were in the military, an academic, or had the funds to own a computer and subscribe to Usenet or other online portals.

Tim Berners Lee is a hero - Al Gore is not.

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Old 08-18-2012, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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A child seat is the same type of restraint as a seat belt. Are you really advocating for a little girl to suffer agonizing pain becuase she was required by the law to wear a defice that restrained her from escaping from flames?

How sadistic can you be?
No they are not the same thing, I do however think it is very important for companies that make child seats should go through extreme testing to make sure that these things never happen. This is an issue with the maker of a child seat, not a seat belt law. Learn the difference.
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