Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 08-27-2012, 04:36 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
30,354 posts, read 51,942,966 times
Reputation: 23776

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
You haven't shown any facts about sex ed and teen pregnancy rates - you have only cited the NIH report which relies on a flimsy correlation of data - if one exists at all.
FACT: Teen pregnancy & HIV rates have dropped in the last 10-15 years.

FACT: Sex education has become more comprehensive during that same time period, and general awareness has also increased in that time.

FACT: Based on #1 & 2 combined, there is no reason to believe sex ed in schools is harmful. You can argue the direct POSITIVE cause & effect, but you cannot argue the lack of a negative cause & effect. Prove me wrong?

FACT: I have presented many other sources besides the NIH (in similar discussions), but you & the other conservatives reject ANY source given by a non-conservative. That is why I'm refusing to post them again, because even if they came from the GOP itself you'd call bias. Truth is, you are more biased against the messenger than the actual message.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-27-2012, 04:41 AM
 
Location: South Dakota
2,608 posts, read 2,097,333 times
Reputation: 769
Quote:
Originally Posted by gizmo980 View Post
FACT: Teen pregnancy & HIV rates have dropped in the last 10-15 years.

FACT: Sex education has become more comprehensive during that same time period, and general awareness has also increased in that time.

FACT: Based on #1 & 2 combined, there is no reason to believe sex ed in schools is harmful. You can argue the direct POSITIVE cause & effect, but you cannot argue the lack of a negative cause & effect. Prove me wrong?

FACT: I have presented many other sources besides the NIH (in similar discussions), but you & the other conservatives reject ANY source given by a non-conservative. That is why I'm refusing to post them again, because even if they came from the GOP itself you'd call bias.
Pregnancy is irrelevant in a "Teach kids gay sex" thread...

HIV is more of a Gay disease...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2012, 04:43 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
30,354 posts, read 51,942,966 times
Reputation: 23776
Quote:
Originally Posted by Earlyretired View Post
SEX??? Mehhh.... Id think they would have learned there's much more to the world and life than SEX and they could point out a moocher by the time I was done with em....
Of course there's more to the world than sex, but just about everyone will have it at some point in their lives... and personally, I feel it's prudent to enter that battle with full artillery.

Quote:
Id teach em to be like ME and the wife though, YOU might not like that apparently.....
I don't know you well enough to say that, but I couldn't care less how you raise your children. And considering my children will most likely go to private (non-religious) schools, I'm only concerned about this issue from the broader perspective... which I'd think you would be concerned about too, considering your dislike of government entities (which include the welfare & food stamps these teen moms usually end up using).
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2012, 04:44 AM
 
Location: Between Heaven And Hell.
13,630 posts, read 10,031,964 times
Reputation: 17022
Quote:
Originally Posted by Earlyretired View Post
Pregnancy is irrelevant in a "Teach kids gay sex" thread...

HIV is more of a Gay disease...
I was taught, that there being no risk of pregnancy, was a positive aspect of gay sex, and worth consideration.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2012, 04:47 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
30,354 posts, read 51,942,966 times
Reputation: 23776
Quote:
Originally Posted by Earlyretired View Post
Pregnancy is irrelevant in a "Teach kids gay sex" thread...
No it's not. The OP asked what was being taught in public sex education, and the answer includes how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Btw, gay people can get pregnant/impregnate too - especially if they're being suppressed, which isn't uncommon even for teens with liberal parents.

Quote:
HIV is more of a Gay disease...
Wrong. While in the United States gay MEN (not lesbians, mind you) are still the most affected group, worldwide it's actually affecting more heterosexuals... and even here in the US, heterosexual rates are still way too high. I thought people stopped believing this propaganda in like 1990.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2012, 04:47 AM
 
Location: South Dakota
2,608 posts, read 2,097,333 times
Reputation: 769
Quote:
Originally Posted by gizmo980 View Post
Given your beliefs, I think home schooling would be the best option... nothing wrong with that, but please warn/inform us if our children ever end up dating yours.

And I do wonder, what would the reaction be if your home-schooled child was gay? It could happen, and probably has more than once - so what would you do, if you had no "indoctrinating big bad gub'ment" to blame for that?
Id deal with it and keep it to my home and family, Id never look to GUV to solve ANY problem I had RESPONSIBILITY for...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2012, 04:54 AM
 
Location: South Dakota
2,608 posts, read 2,097,333 times
Reputation: 769
Quote:
Originally Posted by gizmo980 View Post
No it's not. The OP asked what was being taught in public sex education, and the answer includes how to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Btw, gay people can get pregnant/impregnate too - especially if they're being suppressed, which isn't uncommon even for teens with liberal parents.



Wrong. While in the United States gay MEN (not lesbians, mind you) are still the most affected group, worldwide it's actually affecting more heterosexuals... and even here in the US, heterosexual rates are still way too high. I thought people stopped believing this propaganda in like 1990.
That's just confirmation that "teach kids to be Sissys" is working...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2012, 04:56 AM
 
1,463 posts, read 3,267,115 times
Reputation: 2828
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenneth-Kaunda View Post
I'm a bit out of touch with exactly what is taught in schools these days, but last I heard, homosexual practices were taught in sex education.

not sure at what ages, but I imagine around the 13-14 year old bracket.

is this true, and is this a correct state of affairs?
Don't think its appropriate to teach any kind of sexual technique in school..the kids learn fast enough without encouragement. Pro creation education, yes..technique..NO
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2012, 04:56 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
30,354 posts, read 51,942,966 times
Reputation: 23776
Quote:
Originally Posted by Earlyretired View Post
We ain't gonna get any "babies" preaching Gay Sex
Who's "preaching gay sex?" As I said in my original response to the OP, the techniques of gay sex are not being taught in public schools AFAIK.

Quote:
It's not Governments job to raise your kids, YOU and only YOU are responsible for any kind of deviance...
Teaching the basics of sex & safer sex doesn't = raising anyone's kids for them. Parents are still responsible for filling in the blanks, instilling their personal values in the children, and making themselves available to talk. I learned the basics in school, and my parents covered whatever else I needed or wanted to know (along with a re-cap of the basic stuff).

Quote:
DONT try to change "Laws" to hide your failings...
I'm not trying to change any laws, nor is anyone else as far as I can tell.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-27-2012, 05:00 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
30,354 posts, read 51,942,966 times
Reputation: 23776
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pammyd View Post
Don't think its appropriate to teach any kind of sexual technique in school..the kids learn fast enough without encouragement. Pro creation education, yes..technique..NO
Don't worry, they aren't teaching "technique" - it's just their conservative imaginations working overtime, LOL.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:33 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top