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Old 08-21-2012, 06:21 AM
 
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You are exactly correct. To ask people how much inequality they are willing to accept implies that it is incumbent upon the government to redistribute income through punitive taxation or other means.

The U.S. should always stress the importance of equal opportunity. We are already all equal.
Until a government can GUARANTEE equal opportunity (in addition to "stress[ing]" it, whatever that means), it should have have ways to counteract actual realities of unequal opportunity.

I mean, there is quite a rift here because some people actually believe that simply being born (regardless of circumstance) is evidence of "equal opportunity."

Right?
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:24 AM
 
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Witht the exception of a small percentage who faced unavoidable roadblocks, yes. People come to this country , struggle with the language, struggle with racism and still make something of their lives. This is the land of opertunity. If one is left behind it is usualy their own doing.
What are "unavoidable roadblocks" and why don't more than a "small percentage" encounter those? How small is this percentage?
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:24 AM
 
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Who cares what other people want. You get places in life by going after what YOU want.
I want the money back that we gave/are giving to the banks.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:28 AM
 
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What are "unavoidable roadblocks" and why don't more than a "small percentage" encounter those? How small is this percentage?
Not realy sure how many. I would call one having to care for a retarded sibling or child one. Many are just plain stupid.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:29 AM
 
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I want the money back that we gave/are giving to the banks.

One of the biggest rippoffs on the American taxpayer in history. Perpetrated by those on both side of the political isle.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:33 AM
 
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I think your missing a big piece of the puzzle though. You don't choose who you are born to.
Doesn't matter as much as you think it does.

Didn't you read the study on millionaire's bullet points?
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* Only 19 percent receive any income or wealth of any kind from a trust fund or an estate.
* Fewer than 20 percent inherited 10 percent or more of their wealth.
* More than half never received as much as $1 in inheritance.
* Nearly half never received any college tuition from their parents or other relatives.
That's a hell of a lot of people doing it for themselves.

The left needs to circular file the class warfare bullcrap and work more towards helping the welfare-dependent poor they've been deliberately oppressing for more than 5 decades.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:33 AM
 
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Many are just plain stupid.
If this is true, what do you think should happen to these people? If you believe that stupidity is genetic, then they aren't really born into equal opportunity, right?
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:35 AM
 
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What should happen is they should live a shhitty life. Not breeding would be a good start .
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:36 AM
 
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Yes, he did, because he knew what he wanted to find out. That's the point. He asked questions to confirm his agenda.


Yes, quite different. When you ask someone how wealth should be distributed and tell them they could be in any category, any intelligent person would respond "everyone should be rich". Why would anyone respond "some people should be poor" when they could be in that category? It's a silly question with useless results. I would love to have everyone in the world wealthy enough to live comfortably. Who wouldn't? But that's like asking if you support motherhood and apple pie. Silly.

A much better question would be about how wealth should be attained. Ask people if wealth should be shared evenly regardless of how hard someone works or even if they don't work at all(kinda like socialism), or should their wealth be determined by their efforts (kinda like capitalism).

But the columnist was obviously not interested in that information. He was looking for a survey to bolster his agenda for government controlled wealth redistribution.
Your question is disingenuous because it assumes that if you are poor you don't work hard and that the rich are the hardest workers, which is complete nonsense.

He asked the right question and got the right answers.

The reality is that YOU roadking2003 do want a radically unequal nation. It is your answer. You justify this desire to have a radically unequal society by pretending it is about rewarding hard work.
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Old 08-21-2012, 06:38 AM
 
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What should happen is they should live a shhitty life. Not breeding would be a good start .
I hear euthanasia is making a comeback, too.
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