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Old 08-22-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Like I said before, call me when these women's rights activists start demanding the right to sign up for selective service.

No reason why women shouldn't be drafted, at least for non-combat roles, if they truly want equality.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Fiorina "Fury" 161
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"Is it all over for men?" you ask.

I guess it depends on what the "it" you are referring to is.

In this case, what is all over for men is another organization that takes the form of a private social organization, but is in fact an opportunity for people to conduct various kinds of business discussions and transactions. What is over is the ability of wealthy and powerful men to exclude women from the opportunities to succeed and advance in business that men have always enjoyed.

This decision is an unmitigated good thing. The only negative thing that any rational person could say about it is that they took far too long to do it.
According to Wikipedia, it has about 300 members. Not a large number. Most business in America is small business.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Here
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Does anybody have a link to any of the business deals that have been made over the years at country clubs, health clubs, etc either co-ed or non-coed?
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Like I said before, call me when these women's rights activists start demanding the right to sign up for selective service.

No reason why women shouldn't be drafted, at least for non-combat roles, if they truly want equality.
Would it surprise you to know that this has been happening for years?

Women and the Draft | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson

Future Military Draft Could Include Women | Fox News

Signs of the Times | The Blog of Salvo Magazine
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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I would like to preface this post as I don't want it misconstrued. I don't believe in going out of my way to make life difficult for anyone for any reason. In regard to women, we need their brainpower just as much as men, and their nurturing side (except for the feminists) that brings compassion, understanding, and of course, beauty . I don't mind an all-girls club at all, but there is no doubt that there is a double standard here. I had hope for Augusta, not because they were being "sexist," but because it's a private (all-male) club and they can do whatever they want. And I am obviously not a fan of the feminist agenda, which is to defeat the "Old Boys Network." I was surprised, actually, that Augusta stood up to the public pressure initially because I see increasingly less and less of that. Male bonding is male bonding and men have every right to do that, just as women have every right to go to the health clinic that was advertised in my local paper as "Women Caring For Women." What would people say, for example, if boys pushed for membership in the Girl Scouts? All girls, and completely sexist that boys are excluded just because of their sex. Right?

Looking at the language is this article is telling. Even the most successful men in society bowed to political/social pressure. The feminize machine wins yet another one. I think what is happening to men is also important for women, but for different reasons. What does the future hold for men...and women?

My guess is that most men these days are like women anyway, so they weren't losing anything by doing such.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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My problem with this is the double-standard in which its sexist to have a male-only club, but perfectly fine for women-only clubs. I doubt things would go well for me if I went down to Curves to apply for a membership.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:03 AM
 
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Why should woman executives be excluded from the forum where most high level business deals are made? Are these elite men distressed by the potential competition?
They'll just do the deals in the men's locker room now.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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They caved to pressure. I think any club that has a member's only policy based on men/women, should be fine. I dont see what there is to whine about. They dont want to except men or women, so be it. Go some where else.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I doubt things would go well for me if I went down to Curves to apply for a membership.
Even though I'm on your side, to be fair and unbiased, men are actually allowed to join curves.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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They caved to pressure. I think any club that has a member's only policy based on men/women, should be fine. I dont see what there is to whine about. They dont want to except men or women, so be it. Go some where else.
Did they cave to pressure? Absolutely, with each passing year Augusta National was being portrayed as social anachronism, which it was so much so that it was becoming an embarrassment. How can you have the CEO or IBM, one of the biggest corporate sponsors for the Masters Tournament be a woman, yet refuse them membership? At that point it's not only socially behind the times, IT'S BAD BUSINESS.

I don't see Augusta National telling IBM to take their sponsorship money somewhere else.
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