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Old 10-04-2007, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Thank you -as will your nephews.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:37 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Why do some people consider the military to be a right-wing, Republican population? They represent a diverse mix of ethnicities, religions, and political beliefs. They deserve our support AND respect.

bily4- Please thank your brother for me. I hope he doesn't have to go back, but if he does let us know. He'll be in our prayers.
While I generally agree with your point of view, you also have to acknowledge that past polling has indicated that military members, and their families, have generally voted well over 70% republican in the 2004 election. I don't have that article at the moment, but I had read it awhile ago and recall the number being around 75%. This is an article I found in a quick search which gets into this issue a bit:

"A poll conducted late last year by the Military Times found that 57 percent of those surveyed consider themselves Republican, while 13 percent identified with the Democrats. Among the officer corps the numbers were different. Nearly 66 percent of officers considered themselves Republican compared with 9 percent Democratic. Nearly 30 percent of those surveyed by the Military Times declined to answer the questions or said they were independent."

Military vote softens but doesn't shift - Politics - MSNBC.com
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Thank you both, bily4 and akm4 for bringing a personal face to the thread.

My thoughts and white light to your families and all who serve.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:44 PM
 
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We won the war. The President told us that. Now we are just cleaning up.
how are we not still fighting if we are still dying?
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Journey's End
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Tongue in check remark, GHOST, just a tongue with a cheek.



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how are we not still fighting if we are still dying?
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:02 PM
 
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no worries, just addressing that viewpoint in case anyone truly carries it.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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While I generally agree with your point of view, you also have to acknowledge that past polling has indicated that military members, and their families, have generally voted well over 70% republican in the 2004 election. I don't have that article at the moment, but I had read it awhile ago and recall the number being around 75%. This is an article I found in a quick search which gets into this issue a bit:

"A poll conducted late last year by the Military Times found that 57 percent of those surveyed consider themselves Republican, while 13 percent identified with the Democrats. Among the officer corps the numbers were different. Nearly 66 percent of officers considered themselves Republican compared with 9 percent Democratic. Nearly 30 percent of those surveyed by the Military Times declined to answer the questions or said they were independent."

Military vote softens but doesn't shift - Politics - MSNBC.com
That has actually been changing the past couple of years. The military is starting to get tired of the Republican rhetoric. In another thread we were discussing how the 2 political candidates receiving the most monetary contributions from active military and military support are Ron Paul and Barack Obama. About the only thing the guys have in common are they are both strongest in talking about getting our troops safely out of there.


BURIED IN THE NEWS last week was one of the most potentially significant stories of recent years. The Military Times released its annual poll of active-duty service members, and the results showed something virtually unprecedented: a one-year decline of 10 percentage points in the number of military personnel identifying themselves as Republicans. In the 2004 poll, the percentage of military respondents who characterized themselves as Republicans stood at 60%. By the end of 2005, that had dropped to 56%. And by the end of 2006, the percentage of military Republicans plummeted to 46%.

The drop in Republican Party identification among active-duty personnel is a sharp reversal of a 30-year trend toward the "Republicanization" of the U.S. military, and it could mark a sea change in the nature of the military — and the nature of public debates about national security issues.


Although the reasons for the recent military flight from the Republican Party can only be guessed at, it's a safe bet that disgust at Bush administration bungling in Iraq is the single biggest factor.

The poll shows that only 35% of military personnel approve of the president's handling of the war, and three-fourths of those polled say that the military is "stretched too thin to be effective." Anecdotal evidence suggests that many career officers also are skeptical of the administration's approach to combating terrorism and unhappy with its undermining of the norms of the Geneva Convention.


Weaning the military from the GOP - Los Angeles Times
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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The drop in Republican Party identification among active-duty personnel is a sharp reversal of a 30-year trend toward the "Republicanization" of the U.S. military, and it could mark a sea change in the nature of the military — and the nature of public debates about national security issues.[/b]

Although the reasons for the recent military flight from the Republican Party can only be guessed at, it's a safe bet that disgust at Bush administration bungling in Iraq is the single biggest factor.

The poll shows that only 35% of military personnel approve of the president's handling of the war, and three-fourths of those polled say that the military is "stretched too thin to be effective." Anecdotal evidence suggests that many career officers also are skeptical of the administration's approach to combating terrorism and unhappy with its undermining of the norms of the Geneva Convention.
I think the larger question would be are the current military folks turning away somewhat from Bush or from the Republican Party. One would result in an increase in Democratic Party votes, while the other might not.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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Talking FOX 'what?

And this was a FOX poll? What part of it would anyone believe?
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:10 PM
 
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And this was a FOX poll? What part of it would anyone believe?
I'm sure they had the date correct.
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