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View Poll Results: Should inheritances be illegal?
Yes. Inheritances should be illegal. 11 3.61%
No. Inheritances should be legal. 291 95.41%
Not sure 3 0.98%
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:36 PM
 
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I think inheritance tax should be illegal because the money/items being left have already had the taxes paid when the original owner purchased/acquired the items.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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The inheritance tax is what plays hell with small family farms and businesses. Owner dies, he's a farmer. The estate is valued at $5M, $4.5M is in land value. Tax that at the above proposed 50% and the inheritor(s) have to come up with $2.25M in cash. Since most people don't have that laying around in petty cash the farm gets sold to a developer and all of a sudden McMansions on farmettes grow where corn/tobacco/wheat/soybeans, whatever, once were planted.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:38 PM
 
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Inheritance taxes are theft, because tax has already been paid on that money. That is why there is no inheritance tax in Canada.
You are correct in part. There is no inheritance tax paid by the beneficiaries; however, the tax is paid by the estate...so there is still a tax. A rose by any other name is still a rose.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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Inheritance taxes are theft, because tax has already been paid on that money. That is why there is no inheritance tax in Canada.
That's not really true. I believe in Canada the beneficiary doesn't receive a tax bill, but the estate settles the taxes before they are doled out.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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The inheritance tax is what plays hell with small family farms and businesses. Owner dies, he's a farmer. The estate is valued at $5M, $4.5M is in land value. Tax that at the above proposed 50% and the inheritor(s) have to come up with $2.25M in cash. Since most people don't have that laying around in petty cash the farm gets sold to a developer and all of a sudden McMansions on farmettes grow where corn/tobacco/wheat/soybeans, whatever, once were planted.


The small family farm and business worth 5 million dollars is not really a small family farm or business.

The effect of the estate tax in modern America is essentially ZERO, due to the ability to shelter assets in creative ways. Anyone running a business (farmers included) as a sole proprietor with assets of any kind in excess of 5 million are playing with fire in more ways than one.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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I am in favor of inheritance tax. Since it is actual income, especially income that the recipient did not earn but inherited, I think it should be 50% for anything over 3 million with the exception of small business.
Why should the government get 50% of that money? If you worked your whole life and earned all that money, why should the government get a say so of how you wish it to be spent? Who are you to say they did not "earn it"? It is none of your business or the government's what someone does with their money after taxes. The government and especially obama is terrible with our money. Why give them more? Because they are so good at investing tax money in failing business like Solyndra?
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:48 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I heard a conservative claim that most liberals believe inheritances should be illegal.
Somebody called me and told me that Mitt Romney paid zero taxes for the last ten years.

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Old 08-21-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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The small family farm and business worth 5 million dollars is not really a small family farm or business.

The effect of the estate tax in modern America is essentially ZERO, due to the ability to shelter assets in creative ways. Anyone running a business (farmers included) as a sole proprietor with assets of any kind in excess of 5 million are playing with fire in more ways than one.
I used $5M as an example but I'll play.
Come down here and tell the farmers about all the tax shelters there are. At $50K/acre you get $3M at 60 acres. Buy out for transferrable development rights is now $8-12K/acre and that puts the land into Preservation. That knocks the inheritance tax down but, until this year, the State of MD imposed one on farms.

If it's not in Ag Preservation the new development rules make it almost impossible to develop.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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I used $5M as an example but I'll play.
Come down here and tell the farmers about all the tax shelters there are. At $50K/acre you get $3M at 60 acres. Buy out for transferrable development rights is now $8-12K/acre and that puts the land into Preservation. That knocks the inheritance tax down but, until this year, the State of MD imposed one on farms.

If it's not in Ag Preservation the new development rules make it almost impossible to develop.


There should be more than enough lawyers and accountants in your area willing to help farmers avoid taxes.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:56 PM
 
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Why should the government get 50% of that money? If you worked your whole life and earned all that money, why should the government get a say so of how you wish it to be spent? Who are you to say they did not "earn it"? It is none of your business or the government's what someone does with their money after taxes. The government and especially obama is terrible with our money. Why give them more? Because they are so good at investing tax money in failing business like Solyndra?
Obviously money that is inherited is not earned. That is the definition of inheritance. Inheritance is not any different than any other type of income with the exception of the fact that the money was not earned by the person receiving the income. It should be taxed as income. No different than winning the lottery, except the person that won the birth lottery did not even have to buy a ticket.
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