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Originally Posted by blackandproud
The age does not apply in every state and I agree that a 16 year old knows better. But what about a 13 yr with a 20 yr old.
Ok again with Wikipedia....The authors and others do not pass legislation. No one should be able to tell a woman what she should be able to do with her body because of a definitition or degree of how she was violated or abused.
Dont put words in my mouth. There is a difference between statutory rape and rape. A 16 year old could have sex with a 25 year old willingly. You are talking about pedophiles, an entirely different sick matter.
And those distinctions matter in relation to the legislation in question how? EXACTLY?
Ryan added the word forcible, to the legislation in an attempt to narrow who qualifies for rape based exemptions. Meaning unless the person can prove they were FORCIBLY raped than they do not qualify for the exemption. Date raped? Drugged and raped? Raped by someone holding a knife to your throat but leaving no marks aka coersion rape? Etc, all denied.
All rape is forced. That's what makes it distinct from sex. Forced doesn't always mean in a physical sense either--social clout, emotional blackmailing, and other psychological techniques can be used to metaphorically "hold a gun to someone's head".
Legitamate" rape - as used by Akin - was a misspeak - but he meant it as a distinguishment between rape that is falsely alleged as have occurring(false police reports) and factual instances of rape.
It is true that in times of stress that fertilization is unlikely to occur.
The Democrats ignored the existance of women who falsely accuse men of rape - and interpreted Akin's phrase falsely.
There is no such thing as as "legitimate rape" - rape is a disgusting, absolutly wrong crime. Just as wrong are women who falsely accuse men of committing rape - and these accusations are made much more often than we would like to think.
Only someone who hates men - would advocate for the acceptance of false accusations of rape - and support the women who make these despicable allegations.
Any man who rapes a woman is despicable - and those are the "people" - i prefer to call them animals - whom Mr. Akin was referring to when he spoke of "legitimate" rape.
“You sponsored legislation that has the language ‘forcible rape,’” Delano noted. “What is forcible rape as opposed…”
“Rape is rape,” Ryan interrupted. “Rape is rape, period. End of story.”
“So that forcible rape language meant nothing to you at the time?” Delano asked.
“Rape is rape and there’s no splitting hairs over rape,” Ryan said.
So, Ryan sponsors stuff and has no idea what adjectives do to other words in a sentence?
He doesn't care about the wording. If rape is rape, why abitrarily define it "forcible."
I mean, from what he had on paper, there's "forcible rape", and then there's "lovingly, tenderly stroking your hair, but I'm still raping you", rapes.
I bet that second kind is the one Romney used on businesses when he "consulted".
Legitamate" rape - as used by Akin - was a misspeak - but he meant it as a distinguishment between rape that is falsely alleged as have occurring(false police reports) and factual instances of rape.
It is true that in times of stress that fertilization is unlikely to occur.
The Democrats ignored the existance of women who falsely accuse men of rape - and interpreted Akin's phrase falsely.
There is no such thing as as "legitimate rape" - rape is a disgusting, absolutly wrong crime. Just as wrong are women who falsely accuse men of committing rape - and these accusations are made much more often than we would like to think.
Only someone who hates men - would advocate for the acceptance of false accusations of rape - and support the women who make these despicable allegations.
Any man who rapes a woman is despicable - and those are the "people" - i prefer to call them animals - whom Mr. Akin was referring to when he spoke of "legitimate" rape.
Is it really true? Can you cite even one single shred of proof? Please elaborate.
Ryan added the word forcible, to the legislation in an attempt to narrow who qualifies for rape based exemptions. Meaning unless the person can prove they were FORCIBLY raped than they do not qualify for the exemption. Date raped? Drugged and raped? Raped by someone holding a knife to your throat but leaving no marks aka coersion rape? Etc, all denied.
Nice.
He didn't add the word, or at least, it seems unlikely. The bill was originally introduced with over 250 sponsors and the word "forcible." Who knows who put it in? A staffer? One of over 250 other people than Ryan? But between the bill introduction and its final reporting in the House, the word "forcible" was removed. There's plenty to criticize Ryan for, but this is making a mountain of a molenill.
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