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Old 08-25-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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Romney's plan, such as it is, is to lower taxes on rich people and offset those taxes with cuts to social programs and stealth increases in taxes on everyone else.

There is no evidence that lowering taxes on rich people increases employment or economic growth.

Obama's plan is detailed in the 423-page piece of legislation called the American Jobs Act, which has 41 bullet points on its fact sheet.

Obama's plan: increasing infrastructure investment, hiring more state and local workers, doubling the size of the payroll tax cut and adding a new set of tax cuts for small businesses and companies that hire new employees. Two of those policies imply directly hiring hundreds of thousands of workers. The other two move money into the economy immediately. It’s easier to see how these policies lead to more jobs and demand in the short term.

Romney emphasized four ideas in his plan: expanding domestic energy production, working out trade agreements with Latin America, cracking down on China and cutting the corporate tax rate. These are all reasonable ideas. But working out trade agreements takes a long time. Getting the Keystone oil pipeline up and running takes a long time. Rewriting and implementing a new corporate tax code takes a long time. Changing China’s policies takes a long time. It’s difficult to see how any of these ideas creates a substantial number of jobs quickly.


Obama's "jobs plan" is another $450 billion "stimulus". We saw how well the $1 trillion dollar stimulus worked, so wasting half that much will do nothing, but will cost us half as much.

Obama's "plan" is no budget for another three to four years.

Obama's plan is to institute the largest tax increase in US history- Obamacare

Obama's plan is to loot $750 billion from medicare

Obama's plan is to kill the coal industry

Obama's plan is to prevent offshore oil drilling and the development of shale oil in the west

Obama's plan is to oppose a national right to work act

Obama's plan is to support the influx of illegal immigrants, driving down US wages

Obama's plan is to maintain high corporate taxes, driving business from the US

Obama's plan is to continue to add more and more EPA regulations, driving business out of the US

Obama's plan is keep NAFTA and China trade policies as they are- sucking American capital out of the nation

Obama's plan is to keep spending with massive deficits, insuring US insolvency



Sounds like a great plan. MTA- America is collectively not that stupid. They were fooled by all the rhetoric and hoopla in 2008, but now realize they were sold a bill of goods. Bo is gone. You know it and the democratic leaders know it.

If Romney does not turn things around, he will probably be gone in 2016. If he does improve the economy, it will be tough for Hillary to beat him.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:09 PM
 
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So I guess Obama supporters dont really even know how Obama plans to turn things around if re-elected. Perhaps you're to invested in crying about jokes and tax returns and rape to care.
Perhaps you're too ignorant to know that the economy is not the only issue to vote on. And if people do vote on a single issue than they need to get more informed. My problem with your statement is that you seem to minimize rape and just push it aside like it means nothing. And yes, women are very invested in it. And that is why the republican party has a huge problem with women.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:10 PM
 
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Come on now. We all know that we'll have to reelect him BEFORE we know how he intends to address all those issues.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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This is a funny thread considering that Romney's plan for the economy is nothing but empty platitudes. The scant specifics that I heard is that Romney's plan is to have the Fed follow strong dollar policies; reduce regulations that keep the air and water clean; lower taxes on the richest (eliminate capital gains, interest and dividend taxes); reduce the deficit -- but silent on whose taxes have to rise to do that and slash entitlements that the middle-class uses.

In other words, he wants to do what Republicans always want to do and claim that's what caused the economic downturn.
Finally a leaner has come along spewing Democrat talking points about Romney and really believing that what he says is the truth.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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And yours is a funny response too. NOTHING about what Obama plans to do and just how Romney's ideas are bad.
That is all THEY know and once you are used to spewing Dem talking points it is hard to talk about anything else. Also, Obama has never told any of us what he intends to do other than stimulus plans and things like Cash for Clunkers. He says we have done our thing and it worked. I don't think his people have told him how bad things are from doing his plan.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Romney's plan, such as it is, is to lower taxes on rich people and offset those taxes with cuts to social programs and stealth increases in taxes on everyone else.

There is no evidence that lowering taxes on rich people increases employment or economic growth.

Obama's plan is detailed in the 423-page piece of legislation called the American Jobs Act, which has 41 bullet points on its fact sheet.

Obama's plan: increasing infrastructure investment, hiring more state and local workers, doubling the size of the payroll tax cut and adding a new set of tax cuts for small businesses and companies that hire new employees. Two of those policies imply directly hiring hundreds of thousands of workers. The other two move money into the economy immediately. It’s easier to see how these policies lead to more jobs and demand in the short term.

Romney also emphasized four other ideas in his plan: expanding domestic energy production, working out trade agreements with Latin America, cracking down on China and cutting the corporate tax rate. These are all reasonable ideas. But working out trade agreements takes a long time. Getting the Keystone oil pipeline up and running takes a long time. Rewriting and implementing a new corporate tax code takes a long time. Changing China’s policies takes a long time. It’s difficult to see how any of these ideas creates a substantial number of jobs quickly.
When Mr. Reid causes anything to be introduced in his house, the Senate, it had to have been written by Democrats since he doesn't allow anything from Republicans, the minority in that Senate. Yep, you are squealing Democrat talking points without even seeing where they came from.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Perhaps you're too ignorant to know that the economy is not the only issue to vote on. And if people do vote on a single issue than they need to get more informed. My problem with your statement is that you seem to minimize rape and just push it aside like it means nothing. And yes, women are very invested in it. And that is why the republican party has a huge problem with women.
Yep, the Dems want only to avoid the real issues and try to get the female vote by pushing all that crap about Republican hate for women. I bet if they put this at the top of their list they get their asses handed to them in the election. The GOP has to force him to run on his record and that won't get him many votes.

I watched one of the videos running loose today in which he made some of his ridiculous claims and the crowd sounded so few that when they cheered him it sounded like there was nobody there. Now they tell us that they are making sure they keep the crowd numbers down.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Come on now. We all know that we'll have to reelect him BEFORE we know how he intends to address all those issues.
That worked for Nasty Nancy when she got Obamacare passed in the House and they think it will work anywhere.

BTW I wonder how many people here know that all tax bills have to originate in the House and Obamacare originated in Reid's offices. Maybe the Supreme Court set a trap by declaring the law to be a tax. I don't think many of the leaners here understand that.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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Forget Obama, in situations like these, it's often the congress that has to step up first.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:53 PM
 
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Yep, the Dems want only to avoid the real issues and try to get the female vote by pushing all that crap about Republican hate for women. I bet if they put this at the top of their list they get their asses handed to them in the election. The GOP has to force him to run on his record and that won't get him many votes.

I watched one of the videos running loose today in which he made some of his ridiculous claims and the crowd sounded so few that when they cheered him it sounded like there was nobody there. Now they tell us that they are making sure they keep the crowd numbers down.
Why don't you men understand that what affects women is a real issue to us!!!! Republicans, such as yourself, just want to push us and our feelings aside. You seem to think that our issues are to be ignored and not important enough. Why do you think Obama has more of the women's vote. It's because of attitudes like yours. The gop may not hate women but they sure don't want them or treat them as equals.
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