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the VA and Medicare have already shown far more respect for his life than he did or would have for any member of the enemy that he might have encountered while serving during WWII.
That's a really disgusting thought process you showed there.
Do y'all know about value-based purchasing?
It's coming...medicare is about to screw everyone's ass with this (patients, doctors, hospitals).
And you want ALL HEALTHCARE to follow this model?
But you blamed it on Obamacare. I'm not saying it isn't a national disgrace.
My Uncle was a vet, served in Vietnam. He was a drunk, lowlife, but he was family. He got liver failure, doctors seemed to think it had more to do with Hep C then his drinking, I think it was both.
Anyway, his doctors at the VA gave him 6 times where I got the phone call "better get down here" before he finally passed. The last time he died in the hospital, but two other cases he had hospice at my grandmothers house, caring for him, and when he got to the "limit" of life expectancy, hospice packed up and left the home.
That was during the Bush administration, had nothing to do with Obamacare.
What I think is a national disgrace is that people don't know just how screwed up the healthcare system is in this country, and they blame it on things that aren't really the problem.
You want to make sure everyone gets cared for? It means a mandate or it means single payer.
Otherwise, you let people die without care.
You decide which option you want.
You must keep in mind that the Repub and RWNJ mindset, firmly believe good health care is a European idea.
It looks like the story related by the OP was the result of Hospice policies already in place for decades and has nothing to do with the “Affordable Care". These obviously need review and revision.
My objection to AC (Obamacare) is it still leaves the private insurance companies with their huge administrative overhead and executive salaries in place. As illustrated by the VA and Medicare, insurance can be provided at far less cost by these government agencies being administered by people on government salaries. Insurance is an old and well known business so there is no need to pay someone millions or stock holders dividends for providing a simple service.
Once a single payer system is in place the country will be able to start weeding the similar overhead (high executive and managerial salaries) out of the privately owned medical centers, private hospitals and clinics. There should be similar price constraints on the drug industry as well. The money saved could go to medical and pharmaceutical research done in government owned research facilities.
This would reduce health care costs paid by many of us allowing us to save or spend that money as we want. It would also reduce the huge income disparities created by absurd overhead and management cost in the private sectors of the medical industry.
What I think is a national disgrace is that people don't know just how screwed up the healthcare system is in this country, and they blame it on things that aren't really the problem.
You want to make sure everyone gets cared for? It means a mandate or it means single payer.
Otherwise, you let people die without care.
You decide which option you want.
Government involvement has screwed up healthcare. Government should be a last option - not the only gateway.
So you would far, far rather put your trust and faith in private health insurance companies, which must make a profit, to make better health care decisions regarding life and death than the government?
In a heart beat.
Government screws up almost everything it dabbles in.
But you blamed it on Obamacare. I'm not saying it isn't a national disgrace.
My Uncle was a vet, served in Vietnam. He was a drunk, lowlife, but he was family. He got liver failure, doctors seemed to think it had more to do with Hep C then his drinking, I think it was both.
Anyway, his doctors at the VA gave him 6 times where I got the phone call "better get down here" before he finally passed. The last time he died in the hospital, but two other cases he had hospice at my grandmothers house, caring for him, and when he got to the "limit" of life expectancy, hospice packed up and left the home.
That was during the Bush administration, had nothing to do with Obamacare.
What I think is a national disgrace is that people don't know just how screwed up the healthcare system is in this country, and they blame it on things that aren't really the problem.
You want to make sure everyone gets cared for? It means a mandate or it means single payer.
Actually Cunucu, Medicare and social security are very well run. Medicare is far more efficient than the private health insurance plans. And offers better coverage as well.
Skydive, the one thing that you don't realize is that when this person entered the military he did not know whether he would return or not.
I was in that exact same boat when I entered the Army in the 1960s. I realized the dangers involved and I did not know. Yet, I went. That is a traumatic experience. Any way you slice it, it is.
No way to get around it. Nor to try to trivialize it the way that you do.
Update: Heard from my friend again this morning. Here is what he had to say about the situation:
".......per your suggestion I contacted the following, my VFW post, the DAV, & my Korean War Veteran assn. and the following get well actions occurred. Medicare has agreed to a home nurse visiting once a week. If more than 1 visit is required, that will be out of pocket expense for the couple. The VA has agreed to provide whatever backup is needed during any given week and will be on call as required, no charge. My post has volunteered doctors, and nurses members, if need be...Our loony Medicare doctor and his staff apparently got hammered by the state, VA and others...I just hope this gentleman has learned a lesson from all of this. Utter disgust displayed by my friends... Thanks to all of you for your help and support."
Happy to report that the situation is taken care of.
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