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Old 08-28-2012, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Exactly, I agree.

I don't get the hide in your home crowd.
by the time the cops arrive she could be dead or seriously hurt.
I don't have a gun.

With domestic violence, it's rarely the first time. She made her decision to be with an abuser and I make my decision to keep out of it.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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Immediately call the police and then yell at them - if they are sane they will stop knowing that they are being watched and that the police could be on the way

If they don't stop, they most likely aren't sane enough to confront further - just try to keep their attention on me from a distance until the police can arrive.

No need to videotape - statements will be made and usually that is all that will be needed. If you must go to court, then that's what you do
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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With domestic violence, it's rarely the first time. She made her decision to be with an abuser and I make my decision to keep out of it.

I truly hope that you do not really believe that domestic violence is that simple; that a woman makes a decision to be with an abuser and/or makes a truly conscious decision to stay with an abuser -- domestic violence is a very complicated issue and there are so many components to it that unless a person has been in that situation and/or has been trained to help women in that situation......

It takes a lot of guts and courage to leave an abusive situation - the risk to that woman for leaving is far more dangerous, more often lethal, if she does than if she ends up staying. I sincerely hope that you do not believe that a woman prefers to have her hair pulled, or be kicked, or be isolated from her family and friends [a support network], or ... and the list goes on.

Granted times have changed, laws have changed to help better understand and support victims of domestic violence, law enforcement has, generally, a better understanding of how to deal with domestic violence when they are called in -- and still we have a long way to go.

Never should one think that a woman elects to be with an abuser. It is not easy to get out AND anyone witnessing such an egregious act should absolutely call the police.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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Alot of interesting responses: "Video tape it and call the police." Great idea.

NOW, how many of you would be willing, truly willing and not internet, i am going to lie through my teeth willing, to give your complete name, date of birth, address, phone number, etc to the police? Oh and more over, walk into a court of law and TESTIFY against the batterer.

Yes, most of you on here will say they would. However, in REAL LIFE, MOST of you would not and would not.
I would and have testified against someone who I witnessed assaulting another person. It wasn't domestic violence, but an assault is an assault. I'd do it again in a NY minute if it took another scummer off the street.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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Few, if any domestic violence cases get to the point of a trial. I have testified in court, and have found the entire process quite exhausting, getting there, parking, going thru security, hurry up and wait until called, taking time off of work, sometimes, having to come back the next day...wearing fancy clothes. At least it is now permissable to not wear panty hose in court, and women can wear pants. 30 years ago, it was even worse. And then they ask you all these questions, usually, I document things, so I bring out my day planner...and review my schedule. I am deadly with that thing, I have them back 15 years. I can tell you, who I talked to, on any given day, for the last 15 years, and what the conversation was about.
And my husband thinks I'm crazy for keeping journals that go back over 30 years.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: 39 20' 59"N / 75 30' 53"W
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I don't have a gun.

With domestic violence, it's rarely the first time. She made her decision to be with an abuser and I make my decision to keep out of it.
Candid answer....This is the way most people feel about DV.

I'll throw out a rough figure, typically a women in DV leaves her abuser 7-8x during the course of the relationship and returns for the honeymoon phase.

As a result, they lose the support of everyone they know which adds to the isolation. Without going into all the possible scenarios, getting out of these relationships isn't always as easy as making the decision to leave.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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With domestic violence, it's rarely the first time. She made her decision to be with an abuser and I make my decision to keep out of it.

I truly hope that you do not really believe that domestic violence is that simple; that a woman makes a decision to be with an abuser and/or makes a truly conscious decision to stay with an abuser -- domestic violence is a very complicated issue and there are so many components to it that unless a person has been in that situation and/or has been trained to help women in that situation......

It takes a lot of guts and courage to leave an abusive situation - the risk to that woman for leaving is far more dangerous, more often lethal, if she does than if she ends up staying. I sincerely hope that you do not believe that a woman prefers to have her hair pulled, or be kicked, or be isolated from her family and friends [a support network], or ... and the list goes on.

Granted times have changed, laws have changed to help better understand and support victims of domestic violence, law enforcement has, generally, a better understanding of how to deal with domestic violence when they are called in -- and still we have a long way to go.

Never should one think that a woman elects to be with an abuser. It is not easy to get out AND anyone witnessing such an egregious act should absolutely call the police.

Nice guys finish last.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: MO->MI->CA->TX->MA
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Crank up the volume (on the TV or stereo), play some gunshot sounds. When you get their attention, tell them to stop or you'll call the police and follow through if they ignore you.

Dunno.. I don't know what would be the best thing to do. The most sensible would be to just go straight to calling the police.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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I've heard experts say that in this situation it may be a good idea to go out there and slap (not too hard) the woman too. The assailant will often become disorientated at that point and flee the scene. Kind of risky I suppose but it might just work.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:00 PM
 
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And my husband thinks I'm crazy for keeping journals that go back over 30 years.
I started that as a CYA thing in my job, and have found it extremely useful. Last time I had a deposition for a court case, I took them with me, the attorney wanted to "prove" I was neglectful in my job duties. After the deposition with me, they decided to drop the case. I had dates, times, summary of conversations, e mail documents...blew their entire case out of the water.

I suggest everyone have a daytimer and document their daily activities, you never know when it might be useful...Just takes 10 minutes a day.

Back to topic.
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