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Old 08-27-2012, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Texas
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A handgun? Really? Good God, the more I read about people in that state, the less I want to go there.
Thank you for staying away. No need to add people to the state who don't want to defend their property rights.
Nothing to see here, fall in line and do what the powers that be tell you to do.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:34 AM
 
Location: Texas
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A handgun? Really? Good God, the more I read about people in that state, the less I want to go there.
Right. Because I am sure you are super educated about the state of Texas.
So educated in general, in fact, that you think sensationalist dramatic ratings-driven journalism gives you a clear and unbiased view of many things... Let me take a wild guess at your political affiliation (trusts media, trusts government...hmmmm).

No smart meters, thanks. Not interested.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:41 AM
 
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The article did say that 87 percent of smart meters have been installed so far in Texas (me included). Hardly a state uprising.

The person with the gun? Yes, she has the right to protect her property. Yet, I don't see where her property was at risk of confiscation or such. I guess she would be most pleased if the electric company pulled her meter completely, and she would never have to worry about a meter reader coming on her property.

It just seems strange to me what some people like to protest about. Bulls looking for a China shop.

I will note that our weekend cabin still has the old meter. I wish they would install the smart meter, since on the days the meter reader is due we have to keep our dogs inside the house, and my wife and I must be more circumspect on how we dress for swimming.

I have noticed, by the by, that our electric bill for the smart-meter house has gone down. I guess the old meter was not very accurate.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:50 AM
 
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Good for Texas. This is Step 1 of the government telling to when you can run your dishwasher or turn on your washing machine.
The primary reason the power distribution companies want these is so they can charge you different rates at different times of the day. What they are paying for power fluctuates throughout the day and they want to be able to do the same for their customers.

By charging more at peak demand this should lower demand during peak, e.g. the consumer will wait until the costs are lower to run their dishwasher for example. The demand gets spread more evenly, they need less generation and those generators left are running more efficiently.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:54 AM
 
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The primary reason the power distribution companies want these is so they can charge you different rates at different times of the day. What they are paying for power fluctuates throughout the day and they want to be able to do the same for their customers.

By charging more at peak demand this should lower demand during peak, e.g. the consumer will wait until the costs are lower to run their dishwasher for example. The demand gets spread more evenly, they need less generation and those generators left are running more efficiently.
If government didnt always suffer from mission creep, youd have a point.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:58 AM
 
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I find it distrubing to say the least when people try to portray an entire state of tens of millions by the actions of a few.

And then we find out they've installed huge numbers of them.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:03 AM
 
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A handgun? Really? Good God, the more I read about people in that state, the less I want to go there.
Yes, we had a thread on that at least a month ago.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:16 AM
 
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A handgun? Really? Good God, the more I read about people in that state, the less I want to go there.
Texans are probably really broken up about not having another leftie inside the borders.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:20 AM
 
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My subdivision in Houston has had smart meters for 2 years. No one has suffered a problem. Electricity in Texas is unregulated. Individuals purchase electricity from a number of sellers who buy from producers and then resell and do the billing.

We don't need any coal in Texas. There is plenty of natural gas to produce to the demand. Last year, there was a distribution problem and the producers purchased electricity from Mexico.

If the producers want to charge me less for doing the dishes and laundry in non peak hours, it's OK by me.

Anybody in Texas with a problem can contact the PUC. The members are appointed by the governor. We have had a Republican governor since W defeated Ann Richardson.

The lady with the gun had a right get the man off of her property with a weapon. I've done it, myself. It will be interesting to see if the deregulated companies have to provided her with electricity.
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Old 08-27-2012, 08:03 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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She wanted someone off of property she owned. You remember our nation is founded on property rights don't you? People who dont know that strike me as uninformed.
Unless they're trying to break in and harm you, you call the police and say there's someone on your property and have them hauled away. Chasing someone with a gun is unnessesary.


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Texans are probably really broken up about not having another leftie inside the borders.
Well, it's a good thing I don't give a damn, then, isn't it? I frankly don't want to live around a bunch of fundamentalist cowboys anyway.
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