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Old 08-28-2012, 11:39 PM
 
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You think that you have built your world on your own philosophies. You DO live in a grass hut.

If you will acknowledge that the founding fathers' founding principles include as its basis the philosophy of the Judeo-Christian tradition, you will at least progress from your grass hut to the refinement of Monticello.
Do you plan on acknowledging that the version of Christianity the founding fathers practiced is not the type you find among the religious extremists today who constantly pull the America is a Christian nation card?

There was no such thing as Fundamentalist/Evangelical Christianity when America was founded, and that's the non-historical, corrupted form of Christianity you guys are preaching.
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:22 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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STATE

Key word

These United States are not Christian, and never have been, and never will be, as long as the constitution stands.

Many founding fathers feared organized religion, of any kind.


No, they feared State control over religion. The very thing that is happening today. The State is controlling religion, by trying like hell to silence it in public.


Everyone is a believer.
Some believe a god does exist, and some believe there is no god of any kind. Still, both have a belief.


It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion, idiots!
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Old 08-29-2012, 07:36 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You had many, at the time this nation was founded, that did not believe in the Church, but did believe in a God, in one form or another.

There were many forms of religion, that influenced the composition of the US Constitution.

If you control the religion, you control the people.
Government is now involved in and making policy, controlling religion.
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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It is freedom of religion, not freedom from religion, idiots!
Actually, it is both. You cannot have freedom of religion without freedom from religion. If people are not free to reject religion, then there can never be freedom of religion.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:03 PM
 
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A Deistic god most likely, seeing as the majority of the founders would not by considered Christian by any right wingers today. They rejected important things like the trinity, virgin birth, Jesus' divinity. Belonging to a denomination doesn't make their beliefs Christian. Jefferson went to Church regularly, and yet rejected almost every tenant of Christianity.
"They rejected important things like the trinity, virgin birth, Jesus' divinity. Belonging to a denomination doesn't make their beliefs Christian".

If they weren't Christian, why did they build so many Christian churches?

I don't any other buildings as a place or worship other then a Christian church.
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Old 08-29-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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There isn't one God. There is no God since he is a made up boogey man, that was used by leaders to scare their followers into doing their bidding.

Ignorance was what drove people to obey.
"There isn't one God. There is no God".

Prove it. If you can't maybe it is you who is the ignorant one.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:06 PM
 
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Notice that none of them say which God? George Washington consistently referenced a Deistic type of god, not the Christian God.
Go back to the link and read Virginia's.

For the record, I would rather believe in the one true God, his son the Christ who was crucified and rose again, and be wrong, than to believe that there is no God and be wrong.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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You can find that answer by looking at the link below. Many will be surprised and many won't like the truth.

The Fifty States Reference God in their Constitutions-Truth!
So?
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