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Old 09-05-2012, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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Originally Posted by roysoldboy View Post
The fact that the debt reached your screen name should mean something.

haha thats a funny screen name and sadly true.
Obama has added more Debt to our country in 4 years than bush did in 8.
Not to mention Bush was fighting 2 wars. War creates jobs. Plus tax cuts. and still it took 8 years to add 4T to the debt.
What does Obama do? he becomes bush on steroids and just ramps up our national debt.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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So Democrats/Liberals/Communist/Socialist and everything the Democratic Party represents i have a great question for all of you guys.

Are you BETTER off now than you were 4 years ago?
Sound familiar?
Oh and if you didnt take note Reagen beat Jimmy Carter by a landslide.
United States presidential election, 1980 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

History is repeating itself. So it will be nice to see how big of a victory Romney has
Yes, I personally am better off now. I got some raises at work. I am paying off debts.

The best thing for my personal coffers is for Federal contract money to start flowing again like a mighty stream. Which means this sequestration nonsense has to go.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes.
As are most people I know.
But that's because we are all growing in our careers...4 years ago, we were just starting them.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:24 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Everybody has their own success story to tell, and some their misfortune too.

I am one that is doing well. But it is of my own making, not the government's. I planned, watched and made changes to my 401K at the best times in the last three major downturns in our economy. By sheer luck as some call it. I rather profess it was due to proper economic observations. My wife was on the operating table the day the Dow tanked. I was watching and made my changes in the first hours after opening. I lost a bit but not the amounts some did. Thank goodness the plan I was in allowed those changes to lock in fast.

God help those that were cut short financially for whatever reason it happened. My boss sits in his 6 bedroom $300k home that lost $100k in value lamenting his woes as I bought a new place when the market was at it's near lowest for cash. And the poor feller asked ME for financial advice through the years but didn't take it to heart. The last story I told him to read was 'The Tortoise and the Hare'. I don't think he did though.

Here's hoping for a better future for America and Americans.
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Old 09-05-2012, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Omaha, NE
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Originally Posted by Broadrippleguy View Post
So Democrats/Liberals/Communist/Socialist and everything the Democratic Party represents i have a great question for all of you guys.

Are you BETTER off now than you were 4 years ago?
Sound familiar?
Oh and if you didnt take note Reagen beat Jimmy Carter by a landslide.
United States presidential election, 1980 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

History is repeating itself. So it will be nice to see how big of a victory Romney has
I am. My salary has nearly doubled in that time, I earned my bachelor's degree, got married, purchased a house, increased my 401k contribution, and even built up a modest savings account.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:20 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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I am definitely better off. I will finish my master's in the next year and a half. My side business is doing very well. Investments are doing well. Money in the bank. Life is good.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:24 PM
 
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No, everything has gone up most considerably in that time.....except pay.
That's across the board in my trade.
Heck even (OK especially) groceries are cut to the bone but I am enjoying my high school weight at 56 years old.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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Originally Posted by Broadrippleguy View Post
So Democrats/Liberals/Communist/Socialist and everything the Democratic Party represents i have a great question for all of you guys.

Are you BETTER off now than you were 4 years ago?
Sound familiar?
Oh and if you didnt take note Reagen beat Jimmy Carter by a landslide.
United States presidential election, 1980 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

History is repeating itself. So it will be nice to see how big of a victory Romney has
I'm a lot better off and so is America. The Republican Party is a pathogen.
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Old 09-05-2012, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Yes. One look at my retirement accounts proves it.

If you want a more thorough answer, watch this:


Are You Better Off Today Than You Were 4 Years Ago? - YouTube


I'm glad to hear your retirement account has more devalued dollars in it.


I also believe in giving a new office holder a certain amount of time before holding them and their policies accountable for changes occurring in the economy.

Since six months after taking office is being tossed around in the video, I'll use that as a starting point.

In July of 2009, the US Misery Index stood at 7.4%, US unemployment was 9.5% and, perhaps a better barometer of the domestic job market, the Civilian Workforce Participation Rate was 65.5%.

In July of 2012, the US Misery Index was 9.71%, official US unemployment was 8.3% and the US Civilian Workforce Participation Rate was 63.7%.

In three years, the US Misery Index increased by 2.3%, official US unemployment decreased by 1.2% and the US Civilian Workforce Participation Rate decreased by 1.8%.


It's not a large increase in the Misery index or reduction of official unemployment or workforce participation.

He doesn't fail because things got much worse on his watch.

He fails because things didn't get better.

When he took office in 2009, the economy was already in free fall.

The bottom would come within the year and he sould have two years of solid out of control rebound even if he did absolutely nothing at all.

By comparison, the Reagan recovery from the 1981-82recession was several times as robust as this recovery and gains in retirement accounts and paychecks were in stronger US dollars instead of the weaker, just minted, hot off the press, just try to buy something with it US dollars that we have today.

When Reagan took office inflation was off the hook and the economy was stagnant.

The US Misery Index was 17.96%, official US unemployment was 7.2% and the US Civilian Workforce Participation Rate was 63.6%.

In 1984, the US Misery Index was 11.7%, official US unemployment was 7.5% and the US Civilian Workforce Participation Rate was 64.6%.

Under Reagan, the Misery Index decreased by a third.

Under Obama, it has increased by just under a third.

That really sucks.

Under Reagan, official unemployment increased sightly.

Under Obama, official unemployment has fallen from 9.5% to 8.3%.

He could probably win a second term without campaigning if he had Reagan's 7.5% unemployment rate.

The Civilian Workforce Participation Rate increased under Reagan by one point and decreased under Obama by 1.8%.

Once again, that really sucks.
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Old 09-05-2012, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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No.

It's not Obama's fault, though. In fact, I probably would be better off if Obama was re-elected, even though for the benefit of the common good I am voting for Romney.

Four years ago I was beginning my junior year as an undergraduate at a small Midwestern college. I had recently lost about 30 lbs on my trip to Spain and Morocco, placing me in "overweight" category (from being classified as "obese"). Girls were giving me attention for the first time in many years and class in general was fun. I was working part-time at the family store, only putting in as many hours as I felt necessary to make my car payment and eat out. I already had most of what I sought after. Home life was somewhat rough, but things otherwise were great.

Now things in my life could be and have been worse, but I certainly have no hope for the future except for heaven, as I was diagnosed with a brain tumor three years ago with a life expectancy often stated as 5-10 years. We lost our business nearly two years ago, after the recession and employee problems, as well as the stresses of our personal lives, forced us out of business. I have graduated but am currently unemployed, seeking part-time employment but not having much luck in finding it. My brother is in jail, my mother under legal surveillance, and my sister beginning her first year of college. I have either sold or have had stolen from me most of my possessions. Yet I have come to accept these things and live life day-to-day, not worrying much about the future and remembering the past very nostalgically.
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