Republican Myth Dispelled: President Obama DID NOT control Congress for Two Years! (elect, government)

[DRob4JC]

Originally Posted by walidm

One issue at a time, Start a new thread topic...

President Obama DID NOT control Congress for Two Years

Democrats had a 60 seat majority from September 24, 2009 thru February 4, 2010. 4 months; not 2 years

Democrats lost their 60 seat majority when Republican Scott Brown of Massachusetts was sworn into office in February of 2010.

I don't know what you are expecting with this.

OK - they lost their 60 seat majority - and replaced it with a 59 seat majority. That stopped Obama and the Dems from doing what they wanted?

If anything stopped the Dems it was public pressure and accountability towards the elected officials - which is how government should work in America.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by walidm

................... I'm certain no one believes a simple majority gets ANYTHING major through the Senate, well, you're exception of course.

hmmm

just this past late JULY...the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED senate passed the extension of the bush tax cuts for those making under 250k....with 51 votes

mean while the dumbocrats havent passed a BUDGET in 4 years

[EddieB.Good]

Originally Posted by walidm

Let's guess...

You're going to tell us he'd need VETO PROOF majorities in BOTH Houses to control Congress?

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

hmmm

just this past late JULY...the DEMOCRAT CONTROLLED senate passed the extension of the bush tax cuts for those making under 250k....with 51 votes

mean while the dumbocrats havent passed a BUDGET in 4 years

Originally Posted by DRob4JC

I don't know what you are expecting with this.

OK - they lost their 60 seat majority - and replaced it with a 59 seat majority. That stopped Obama and the Dems from doing what they wanted?

If anything stopped the Dems it was public pressure and accountability towards the elected officials - which is how government should work in America.

Why didn't the DREAM Act pass then?

[VMH2507]

Originally Posted by EddieB.Good

Why didn't the DREAM Act pass then?

When was the Dream Act brought up for a vote? I thought Obama just issued an Executive Order and bypassed that silly Congress thing!

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by walidm

This is an odd understanding of the Senate Process.

Perhaps you should examine Rules XXII, VIII, VII. I'm certain no one believes a simple majority gets ANYTHING major through the Senate, well, you're exception of course.

In the meantime, and back on topic - Democrats had a 60 seat majority from September 24, 2009 thru February 4, 2010. 4 months; not 2 years

It used to. It's much less common in the past few years. Certainly you can pass legislation with a simple majority, but you can't run roughshod over the minority to do so.

[VMH2507]

It's interesting that the president who promised to work across the aisle can only get things accomplished when he has a SUPER Majority. Not sure but don't think that is how bipartisanship is supposed to work. Wouldn't it be nice if the party in control of both houses (Dems for 2 years) actually tried to work with the minority instead of just ramming things down their throats?

[Joykins]

Originally Posted by VMH2507

When was the Dream Act brought up for a vote? I thought Obama just issued an Executive Order and bypassed that silly Congress thing!

that was significantly more limited--stopping some deportations, that's all.

[EddieB.Good]

Originally Posted by VMH2507

When was the Dream Act brought up for a vote? I thought Obama just issued an Executive Order and bypassed that silly Congress thing!

If you don't know the DREAM Act came up for a vote, then you shouldn't be commenting on Politics.

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by EddieB.Good

Why didn't the DREAM Act pass then?

let's see....badly written bill to begin with

first introducted in 2001 by dick durbin....This bill would provide conditional permanent residency to certain undocumented residents of good moral character .......in other words its an anchor baby AMNESTY

and
these democrats"
Baucus (D-MT)
Hagan (D-NC)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Tester (D-MT)

and even liberal republuicans Snowe (R-ME) and Collins (R-ME)


all voted NO


and these chose NOT TO VOTE
Bunning (R-KY)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Manchin (D-WV)

[EddieB.Good]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

let's see....badly written bill to begin with

first introducted in 2001 by dick durbin....This bill would provide conditional permanent residency to certain undocumented residents of good moral character .......in other words its an anchor baby AMNESTY

and
these democrats"
Baucus (D-MT)
Hagan (D-NC)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Tester (D-MT)

and even liberal republuicans Snowe (R-ME) and Collins (R-ME)


all voted NO


and these chose NOT TO VOTE
Bunning (R-KY)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Manchin (D-WV)

Senate vote: 55-41.

So again, why didn't the DREAM Act pass?