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Old 10-21-2012, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Cute. Wrong, but cute. You know all about me by an internet forum user ID.

I rest my case.


I don't know which is worse. Believing what eva longoria tells you or believing what you read on facebook.
Since you believe what Rushy tells you why should she believe what her friends, who are probably much more informed than you are, tell her?
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:52 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Assess to birth control is not just a woman's issue. We don't risk getting pregnant all by ourselves. And as long as insurance companies cover Viagra and penile pumps, they should also cover birth control.
Not the same thing. ED is medical problem.
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Old 10-21-2012, 11:58 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Restrict what access to health care? Is that what we call baby murder these days? Healthcare?
Someone pointed out recently (I forget where this was) that the pro-abortion liberals will argue that a baby in the womb isn't a baby (the, "it's just a mass of cells" argument), until one them decides to have a child. Then she refers to it as her "baby!"

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How is free contraception, healthcare, with free being the key word? Women have been whinging the equal pay for equal work lament since the 1970s? Got any examples. I'll help you out. Here's one:

No Equal Pay For Women In White House Despite Ledbetter Law - Investors.com

"When Katherine Fenton asked Obama what he intended to do about "women making only 72% of what their male counterparts earn," the question was based on a false premise and a false statistic — one calculated by Diana Furchtgott-Roth, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, by comparing all male with all female workers, regardless of experience, productivity, number of hours put in or length of service. When you factor these things in, Furchtgott-Roth says, women make about 95 cents to a man's dollar, which may explain why, since the Ledbetter Act was passed in January 2009, only 35 women have filed lawsuits under the new law."
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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I'm a woman and these are the issues that my friends talk about and post about on facebook. They're very important issues BECAUSE they're being threatened by a Neanderthal who'd like to take women back to the 1960's when they had no rights in this regard.
Where do you find anything that would support such a claim? I swear, you people just make stuff up! Nobody has ever even hinted at such a ridiculous idea.
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Not the same thing. ED is medical problem.
Fibroids, high blood pressure, pre-eclampsia/eclampsia, gestational diabetes, anemia, deep vein thrombosis, etc are all medical problems that can negatively impact a pregnant woman. In my case, my body post-chemo is not able to handle pregnancy, if I am still fertile (which is up in the air). Eventually, I will likely heal which is why I have not gone through tying my tubes. Without birth control, I could face the very real medical problem of my kidneys shutting down and my heart giving out.

Furthermore, hormonal birth control controls PCOS, another health condition I have.

I have no idea how hormonal birth control can not be considered as a preventative measure and treatment for medical problems if ED - which, mind you, is not life threatening and only impacts your ability to have intercourse - is covered.
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Old 10-21-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Houston
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There should be catastrophic healthcare insurance and that is all. That would save all these petty arguments. You need insurance for big expenses, not small ones. Car insurance does not cover maintenance.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There should be catastrophic healthcare insurance and that is all. That would save all these petty arguments. You need insurance for big expenses, not small ones. Car insurance does not cover maintenance.
Our bodies are not cars. We can't "total" our bodies and get new ones.
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Old 10-21-2012, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Restrict what access to health care? Is that what we call baby murder these days? Healthcare? How is free contraception, healthcare, with free being the key word? Women have been whinging the equal pay for equal work lament since the 1970s? Got any examples. I'll help you out. Here's one:

No Equal Pay For Women In White House Despite Ledbetter Law - Investors.com

"When Katherine Fenton asked Obama what he intended to do about "women making only 72% of what their male counterparts earn," the question was based on a false premise and a false statistic — one calculated by Diana Furchtgott-Roth, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, by comparing all male with all female workers, regardless of experience, productivity, number of hours put in or length of service. When you factor these things in, Furchtgott-Roth says, women make about 95 cents to a man's dollar, which may explain why, since the Ledbetter Act was passed in January 2009, only 35 women have filed lawsuits under the new law."
I can't stand it when women don't stick up for what's best for them and believe this junk.

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"Women tend to seek jobs with regular hours, more comfortable conditions, little travel, and greater personal fulfillment. Often times, women are willing to trade higher pay for jobs with other characteristics that they find attractive.
Men, in contrast, often take jobs with less desirable characteristics in pursuit of higher pay. They work long hours and overnight shifts. They tar roofs in the sun, drive trucks across the country, toil in sewer systems, stand watch as prison guards, and risk injury on fishing boats, in coal mines, and in production plants. Such jobs pay more than others because otherwise no one would want to do them."

It's Time That We End the Equal Pay Myth - Forbes


The unequal pay myth has been busted.

I'm an auto mechanic because it pays better than most other jobs and I'm always in demand.


As for rights, how about the right to not be legally discriminated against because you have a penis?

More women are attending college than men, yet we still have AA in place to make sure the poor kid when grew up fatherless in a mobile home park or a government housing project takes a back seat to Chelsea Clinton and the Obama girls.


And no one is restricting your access to anything.

Just pay for it yourself.

That's all.



The reason why the Democrats war on men is failing is because half of the women who vote the abortion issue are pro-life. Furthermore, lots of married women have no interest in their husband's income being tied to that of female coworkers who are too timid to demand better pay and unwilling to do the jobs men do.
Busted my foot! Forbes Magazine? The one that makes up those stupid lists? Here's a research study quote:

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Shortchanged: Why Women Get Paid Less Than Men - Businessweek

**In a 2007 article for the Academy of Management’s journal Perspectives, Cornell University labor economists Francine Blau and Lawrence Kahn wrote that even after adjusting for education, experience, race, industry, and occupation, women brought home just 91 percent of what men did. And they said that figure may understate the pay gap due to sex discrimination if women have been excluded from higher-paying opportunities.
And if you think women are doing all this cushy work, go follow a nurse, a day care worker or a teacher around all day and report back.
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Earth
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No one made anything up:

State Trends for 2011 on Abortion, Family Planning, Sex Education and Insurance
Laws Affecting Reproductive Health and Rights:
Trends in the First Quarter of 2011


To date, legislators have introduced 916 measures related to reproductive health and rights in the 49 legislatures that have convened their regular sessions. (Louisiana’s legislature will not convene until late April.) By the end of March, seven states had enacted 15 new laws on these issues, including provisions that:


Sadly, much more at link.
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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No one made anything up:

State Trends for 2011 on Abortion, Family Planning, Sex Education and Insurance
Laws Affecting Reproductive Health and Rights:
Trends in the First Quarter of 2011


To date, legislators have introduced 916 measures related to reproductive health and rights in the 49 legislatures that have convened their regular sessions. (Louisiana’s legislature will not convene until late April.) By the end of March, seven states had enacted 15 new laws on these issues, including provisions that:


Sadly, much more at link.
Despite all evidence affirming that there is indeed a concerted and coordinated effort on the part of republicans to pass these restrictive laws, they insist on towing the party line.
Saddest of all are the women who have absolutely no clue how hard previous generations fought to ensure that they could take these rights for granted and who seem to have not the least idea how negatively all of us will suffer because they vote against their own and their daughters' interests.
How is it possible that there are women in this country who believe that the Akins and Walshes and Ryans and their ilk are worthy of elected office?
Beyond belief.
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