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Old 09-08-2012, 02:46 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Originally Posted by 415_s2k View Post
Okay. So, a group of pro-lifers just asked them "are you here for an abortion?"
And, they answered "yes" to a group that they knew would make their decision all the more difficult by shaming and judging them?
So, considering that nationally, 3% of PP's provided services are abortion, what are the odds that there would be so many women coming in for abortions, whom were willing to admit to you that's what they were there for, for the duration of your rally?

I don't believe you. I'm sorry.


Well, again, your story comes across as implausible, and shows a total lack of knowledge at what Planned Parenthood actually does most of the time. Facts that you seem to ignore to play the "victim of intolerance" card.
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This. ^^^^^

I, too, find it unbelievable that women trying to get past a group of arrogant and self-righteous protesters are going to voluntarily tell those protesters such intimate details about why they are there.

This poster has a habit of, shall we say, creating scenarios to support whatever her agenda of the day is.

Let's just hope she outgrows it.

Planned Parenthood is a wonderful organization that does wonderful things for women's health issues. In the past, I have made a yearly donation to Susan B. Koman, but from now on, that donation will be going to P.P.

 
Old 09-08-2012, 02:53 AM
 
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Yes!!!!! In fact, my husband and I want to do this. Adoption is very expensive ( such a shame, but it is) and so we are talking about how to fund that so we can be open to just what you suggest. You would be surprised, though to know how many people wait years for a baby. There are not as many newborn babies up for adoption in this Country as one might think. Especially white, healthy, non drug exposed babies .

I believe we need to create more of a culture of adoption in this country, so it is seen as a very positive thing, and there is no stigma attached to it.
So you want a 'white, healthy, non drug exposed baby' to adopt? Why not a non-white baby with health problems? There are plenty of them. Aren't they more in need? Why wait years? Or is it more about the perfect litte baby that you want and not so much about what is needed by those 'unwanted' babies?
 
Old 09-08-2012, 02:57 AM
 
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I know that about 5 or 6 of them were there for abortions because the part of our group that was there for counseling asked them, and they answered yes. The rest i don't know.
No qualified, ethical Counsellor would ever be hanging around like a vulture outside a PP clinic 'asking' if women were having an abortion. That's harassment.

What your group is doing is not 'praying'.

It's preying.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 03:03 AM
 
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How are the escorts 'busybodies'?

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It's allegedly no one's business what women do.

Why is it the business of these escorts what the protesters are doing?

Answer being it's no more an escort's business than the protester's. Thus they are busybodies.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 03:05 AM
 
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Who was that guy, who said, "He who is without sin, should cast the first stone"...oh, yeah, that was Jesus. Have you ever heard of him?
 
Old 09-08-2012, 03:06 AM
 
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They are needed to keep the clients safe from the rabid religious zealots.
Sounds like a police matter, not the concern of a bunch of busybody pro-aborts. That is if, in fact, the clientele is truly imperiled.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 03:11 AM
 
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Nope just the abortions.

It's a free country. The devil worshipers can do what they want.

Excuse me, but this PP has had escorts for a very long time, I'm pretty sure since before I was born, or shortly after. It wasn't because of my prayer group, it was becasue of the crazy pro-lifers. See there are the real pro-lifers who are peaceful and prayerful and then there are the crazy ones that scream "murderer" as women walk in and they are the ones who get all the publicity. That is very wrong, and I would never call someone going in a murderer.

Last time I checked looking someone in the eyes is polite. Or has that changed? It's not like I was glaring at the women, I looked at them. Trying to understand. Thinking about what I would do if I were in their positions. And if that's a bad thing, then I guess I'm bad, but I don't believe it is.

I know that they do more than that. But we were their praying for the women who were having abortions, and praying for the fetuses, not praying that the woman going in to get a pap. or a mammogram referral goes to hell. Give me a break.
Don't kid yourself. What your group is doing is harassment, especially if they are stopping women to 'ask' them if they are going to have an abortion. And what do your so-called 'counsellors' do when the women or girls say yes?


If all you wanted to do was 'peaceful prayer', you can do that anywhere. To me your group is worse than the 'crazies' who scream murderer.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 03:12 AM
 
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Great. You probably scared off folks, who might have wanted to go there for information about how not to get pregnant.
You can not get pregnant if you don't have sex.

Various birth control methods can reduce the odds of getting pregnant, but judging by the number of failures it would seem virtually no method is 100% effective.

I thought everyone knew this information about how not to get pregnant.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 03:18 AM
 
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It's allegedly no one's business what women do.

Why is it the business of these escorts what the protesters are doing?

Answer being it's no more an escort's business than the protester's. Thus they are busybodies.
Seriously?

It's the 'business' of the escorts (who are welcomed by the clinic and clients) to protect the clients from being harassed by the rabid religious 'protestors'. The escorts are only there BECAUSE these nutcase 'protestors' harass clients.
 
Old 09-08-2012, 03:19 AM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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I will be happy to show you tolerance and respect when you return the favor. But you do neither when you attempt to put yourself between me and my own personal healthcare, so you deserve none in return.



Oh, please, at least have the decency to be honest. You weren't there to "help" anyone, you were there to preach your dogma at them. And for that as well, you forfeit your right to respect or tolerance from me.
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(I couldn't rep you again yet.)
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