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Old 02-13-2014, 09:52 AM
 
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Let me start this by saying that I have absolutely no problem with what someone else's sexual preference is as long as they respect mine.

Now can someone explain to me exactly what gay pride is? It's my understanding that being gay isn't a choice but instead something that you just are. So how can you be proud of something that you had no control over? Being gay isn't an achievement or something you worked hard for. I'm hetero. It's not something that I'm proud or ashamed of. It's just something that is. Now you can embrace being gay, but proud? Proud about what?

 
Old 02-13-2014, 10:05 AM
 
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Being proud of who YOU are. I agree that you are born that way. IMO, it’s the same as people who are proud to be Mexican, African American, Native American. Yes those are “races” but you were born that way and you are proud of it.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 10:17 AM
 
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Being proud of who YOU are. I agree that you are born that way. IMO, it’s the same as people who are proud to be Mexican, African American, Native American. Yes those are “races” but you were born that way and you are proud of it.
I still believe "proud" is the wrong word to use. I'm of Latin descent. Sure I embrace my culture and can be proud of certain achievements that those of my race have achieved. I just can't see how someone can be proud of something that they had no control over.

You finish school and obtain a degree. That's something to be proud of.

You worked hard and got that promotion as a result. That's something to be proud of.

Your born red headed or gay. Now that's something you can choose to embrace. You didn't achieve or work hard towards being gay or red headed. You just are!
 
Old 02-13-2014, 10:17 AM
 
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It's basically the equivalent of saying that you're not ashamed of who you are and you don't hate or judge yourself for who you are the way that others might hate or judge you. It's similar to ethnic pride, but not as similar to regional pride. Regional pride is more about having a love for the place that you live/come from (see; proud to be an American). It's a poor word choice in all of those cases, but it gets the point across.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 10:20 AM
 
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Gay people have been shamed, beaten, killed and everything else for who they are..."gay pride" simply means not wanting to be shamed into silence or hiding their true identities.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:30 PM
 
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Gay people have been shamed, beaten, killed and everything else for who they are..."gay pride" simply means not wanting to be shamed into silence or hiding their true identities.
This has been true for practically every type of person at some point in history. Every ethnicity was enslaved at some point somewhere. Every religion was attacked somewhere at some point.

I see things like gay pride and gay pride parades the same as I do with black pride or an Irish parade. If people want to have little celebrations of who they feel they are, I have no issue with it. Personally, I don't need a special day to celebrate my straightness or my heritage, but that's me. If you feel the need to, knock yourself out, have a good time and drink a beer or margarita for me.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:40 PM
 
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Unless you're proud to be white. Then you're a racist.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 02:41 PM
 
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I celebrate my straightness every time I see a beautiful woman. And I'm proud of it, not in an arrogant way, but in the sense that I am grateful I have the ability to appreciate a beautiful woman.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 04:38 PM
 
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Gay people have been shamed, beaten, killed and everything else for who they are..."gay pride" simply means not wanting to be shamed into silence or hiding their true identities.

But it really isn't their "identity". It's simply an attraction. One aspect of their lives. They chose to make it their identity which is sad and not necessarily something to be "proud" of. It would be nice if they would just keep it to themselves. Find a partner if they must. Be happy. No one is going to take that away from you if you don't want them to. But this whole, "Looky at me. I'm GAY!" thing really turns most people off or at the least makes them roll their eyes. We really don't care what your orientation is. Now get back to work and quit complaining. << That wasn't meant at you Natural. Just at the whole LGBT crowd in general.
 
Old 02-13-2014, 04:40 PM
 
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This has been true for practically every type of person at some point in history. Every ethnicity was enslaved at some point somewhere. Every religion was attacked somewhere at some point.

I see things like gay pride and gay pride parades the same as I do with black pride or an Irish parade. If people want to have little celebrations of who they feel they are, I have no issue with it. Personally, I don't need a special day to celebrate my straightness or my heritage, but that's me. If you feel the need to, knock yourself out, have a good time and drink a beer or margarita for me.
Well, of course you don't because your orientation is the norm on a vast scale, and it is "celebrated" without a second thought in every facet of society on a daily basis. If you or I want to hold hands with our wife or kiss them in public, no one will give it a second though. Now if two men or women want to do the same, in most of America and the world, they can expect anything from a stare, to a comment, to arrest or violence, depending on where they are.
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