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View Poll Results: Are you better off since Obama took office?
Yes, life is good under Obama 39 44.83%
Neutral 8 9.20%
No, I'm worse off now that I was 4 years ago 40 45.98%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-09-2012, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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That is indeed a better question. The nation as a whole is NOT better off. I didnt think we could be more divided, but we are. I didnt think we could have less trust in Washington, but we do. I didnt think we could still be at over 8% unemployment at the end of his first term, but we are. The overall state of the country, is NOT good.
Keep in mind that that 8% doesn't include people like my BIL who stopped looking because they gave up. When he ran out of unemployment benefits, he decided to just start taking social security and retire. It hasn't been easy for him but some money coming in is better than no money coming in. Fortunately, his wife can carry him on her insurance. He'd be SOL if he wasn't married to someone who could.
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I look around me and I'm just baffled by Obama's approval rating. I cannot see where he has done anything to improve the economy. Un/underemployment (especially among women and minorities) is at an all time high. I drive down my street and see vacant houses that families had to just walk away from. The National debt is staggering.

My question, to you, is are YOU better off since Obama took office? If so, what has Obama improved in your life?
It's hard to be any worse off than in 2008. In 2008 I had lost half of my 401K and our company was laying off people every month. Now my 401K has doubled, and our company is hiring again. Also, I was able to refinance my mortgage, and I save about $500 per month. Plus I picked up investment properties, and housing prices have begun to go up.
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:13 PM
 
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i'll be voting for obama, the thought of romney and ryan in office scares me. Romney is such a flip-flopper on so many issues, and such an opportunist, i don't feel an ounce of genuineness coming from him. To answer the op's question--i'm not doing better or worse. I am a sahm. Back when bush was in office i was graduating college and working and living on my own. I now am a sahm with a family. My so has a good job. But also had a good job upon graduating when bush took office. Things have not changed for us, or anyone in our family--most of us are doing the same that we were doing before obama took office. I admit that the unemployment rate for minorities and women does trouble me, as does some other things that have occurred, but i'd like obama to finish 4 more years so that he can fix the 8 years of issues bush brought on to this country. Only fair that bush got 8 years to mess it up, give obama 8 years to fix it.
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Whoville....
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It's hard to be any worse off than in 2008. In 2008 I had lost half of my 401K and our company was laying off people every month. Now my 401K has doubled, and our company is hiring again. Also, I was able to refinance my mortgage, and I save about $500 per month. Plus I picked up investment properties, and housing prices have begun to go up.
I was one of those laid off in 2008. While I have seen some recovery in my 401K, I'm now earning half of what I did in before 2008.

I've heard it said that if you never lost your job, there is no recesssion. I wouldn't know, I lost mine and had to take one making half of what I was making just to have work and benefits.

If I had not lost my job and still had that income, I'd be picking up investment properties around where I live. You can buy houses cheap here. Unfortunately, my money was spent weathering unemployment for almost a year and underemployment since then.
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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thanks to Obamacare I took a 10 percent cut in profit.

I am better off financially because of my own hard work and effort. It has nothing whatsoever to do with him.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I have developed a deep respect for Regan since Obaman took office. One of Regan's cabinet members started to blame his predecessor one day and he cut him off and said something to the effect, that it didn't matter who made the mess because it's now their job to figure out how to fix it. The blame game only works for so long anyway. Either you can fix the problems or you can't. If you can't, get out of the way. I'm convinced Obama can't. That's why he continues to use the blame Bush strategy. Three years is plenty of time to have seen some results from Obama's plan. If there ever was one. All I see is massive national debt and Obama going on talk shows and on vacation while people run out of unemployment benefits and fall off the rolls making it look like unemployment is getting better (they only count those drawing unemployment as unemployed).
His name was Reagan, not Regan, and he spent a good portion of his presidency blaming the past admins. But then again, that's what all politicians do. Also, in case you didn't know, he TRIPLED the national debt.
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I was one of those laid off in 2008. While I have seen some recovery in my 401K, I'm now earning half of what I did in before 2008.
So, in 2008 you lost your job during Bush admin, and today you have job, and yet somehow you think you are worse of now, and it's all Obama's fault. Okey dokey....().
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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I look around me and I'm just baffled by Obama's approval rating. I cannot see where he has done anything to improve the economy. Un/underemployment (especially among women and minorities) is at an all time high. I drive down my street and see vacant houses that families had to just walk away from. The National debt is staggering.

My question, to you, is are YOU better off since Obama took office? If so, what has Obama improved in your life?

Your Poll Options have a built in bias by their choice of words.... so I'm not voting.

However in General...YES.......
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:30 PM
 
Location: right here
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His name was Reagan, not Regan, and he spent a good portion of his presidency blaming the past admins. But then again, that's what all politicians do. Also, in case you didn't know, he TRIPLED the national debt.

If you consider the debt increase as a percentage of the whole national wealth (GDP) went from 32.6% to 51%, that is a 59% increase relative to the whole economy, not a 300% increase (tripling) like you liberals like to point out. After defeating the Soviet Union with a huge military buildup, the final debt of the Reagan years was only about half (51% of GDP) of what it is today (100% of GDP).

It was the democrat congress that went on the spending spree ( ever heard of TEFRA)? Tax cuts caused the boom while massive spending caused the debt....
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Old 09-09-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Florida
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If you consider the debt increase as a percentage of the whole national wealth (GDP) went from 32.6% to 51%, that is a 59% increase relative to the whole economy, not a 300% increase (tripling) like you liberals like to point out. After defeating the Soviet Union with a huge military buildup, the final debt of the Reagan years was only about half (51% of GDP) of what it is today (100% of GDP).
I consider national debt for what it is . It is national debt, and Reagan tripled it. The debt was increased by 300% while he was in office. He increased it three times as much as all other presidents before him. Get it?

PS. I am not liberal, nor Obama supporter, and that does not mean I will lie to support another big goverment socialist like Mitt Romney. If you voted for Bush or Obama, or if you plan to vote for Romney, you are a big government supporter. Period.
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