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Old 09-13-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Show me where I'm wrong in that reality tv is complete and utter garbage! Not to mention most of the music that is out there 2012! You do realize that people can be easily influenced by what they see on tv and hear on the radio! Show me where I'm wrong that the lamestream media networks don't on a nightly basis sensationalize everything! I used Fox as an example because I just happened to be passing through the channels, but it happens in on ALL of the cable news networks! That's not news! That's crap! It makes the Jerry Springer Show look like a documentary! Show me where I'm wrong about more and more people nowadays have their nose buried in their smartphone and their thumbs moving a mile a minute, instead of actually having a viable and meaningful conversation! As for the middle east, show me where our foreign policy isn't a big reason for what is happening over there!

And I wasn't calling you a moron personally, but there are a lot of people out there that have their heads buried in the sand!

But if you want to watch reality tv, cool! It's America, don't let me stop you! I don't believe in censorship! But I do believe in changing the channel, and I do believe it serves as nothing but dumbing down society!
in all honesty, do you think that rant you just went on, is going to convince enough people that the libertarian party is the right party. This is what I'm talking about, you are blaming democrats and republicans for the creation of reality tv, which I find strange because I think that is the best example of the free market society you guys desire so much.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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Why do you say that? What shred of evidence do you have?

You are nuts if you think that going deeper and deeper into debt to fund social programs is remotely a good idea. Tell me, would you feed every homeless guy by charging your credit card if you had remotely no plan on how to pay it back?
I'm not saying that there isn't wasteful spending, but the very idea that this country is going to pitch in to help everybody that is in need is fanatsy world.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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Is it as deluded in the religion of Demotardism?....

GregW is a self proclaimed socialist, the form of libertarianism to which is being discussed is the antithesis to everything he believes in. He despises everything about it which is why he covets Alinsky methods in his discussion concerning it.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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you are right, we can't legislate your thoughts or beliefs, but we sure can legislate your actions. You can be the most racist, homophobic person in this country, but the government can tell you not to deny me services, or you have to have quotas. I don't care about your belief, I just care how you treat me.
Right because you don't care about anyone else but yourself. You don't care about or respect property rights. You don't care what happens to anyone else so long as your will is imposed. If a business owner owns their property then it's their moral right to deny access to anyone they don't want on their property. If I own the land it's mine and I can do with it what I please you have no right to my property you are only allowed access by the consent of the owner. Barging into my business with the force of the government is no more moral than barging into my house or my bedroom with the force of the government.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:08 AM
 
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I'm not saying that there isn't wasteful spending, but the very idea that this country is going to pitch in to help everybody that is in need is fanatsy world.
Again, what evidence do you have for this, or are you just assuming random s**t?
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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that maybe true, but the problem comes when you assume that because a person is white, that makes them the absolute best person for the job. i'm not saying you would do that, but we've seen it in the past.
Who cares? If a business owner only chooses to hire white people then so what? If he's hiring second rate employees just because they're white his business will suffer and soon enough his business won't exist so you can stop worrying about it.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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no, those are just called rules, which brings me back to my point that libertarians just don't want rules at all. There is nothing that stops you from opening a liquor store, or selling cars, or cigarettes, or opening a bar, ya'll just don't like rules.
Your goalposts keep moving. He just listed several examples of government force stopping business and you just relabeled those "rules" and moved the goalposts.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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did you just completely ignore my post. I give to the poor, just like millions of citizens do. What I'm saying is, you guys are nuts if you think everybody in this country who is in need of extra help can be simply supported by charitable giving of the free will of people with no government intervention.
Not every poor person in America is helped by the government. Some people fall through the cracks. This is irrelevant because it's immoral to steal from one group of people and give to another.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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I'm not saying that there isn't wasteful spending, but the very idea that this country is going to pitch in to help everybody that is in need is fanatsy world.
American giving

Americans give record $295B to charity - USATODAY.com

How Much is Given?

Now, don't just read the headlines. Read the articles. You'll notice something in there...when the economy is doing better, more charity is given. If you get big government out of the damn way, (ie; NO bailouts at tax payers' expense), people will have more money and thus, will give more.

No, it's NOT a fantasy world.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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Who cares? If a business owner only chooses to hire white people then so what? If he's hiring second rate employees just because they're white his business will suffer and soon enough his business won't exist so you can stop worrying about it.
That is my reason for not liking the libertarian party because you guys have no issue with racism.
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