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Old 09-13-2012, 05:55 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Yes, again during the GWB presidency there were NUMEROUS embassy attacks and nobody, not the media, not Democrats in elected positions, and certainly not conservatives were treating those attacks as a crisis.
Inaccurate. John Kerry, for example, made points several times poor incidents occurred in Iraq (e.g., Americans were killed in Iraq) to criticize and attack Bush. And some of those were 'same day' criticisms.

And you don't consider a terrorist attack on the American consulate and the assassination of our ambassador as a severe foreign policy crisis?
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Why should he? Somebody has to speak for America, and it isn't Obama, who's weak response after the Embassy bombing and killing of four Americans, including our Embassador shows he is unable to lead.
What else should he have done? What should he do now? What would Mitt do differently? What would YOU do differently?
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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The security was able to repeal the attack, thank goodness. Are you happy about that?
Uh, yeah of course. But they should not have been allowed to get close. This entire thing seems to be escalating, and that isn't good. We need to take this very, very seriously.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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Thats why nwe are broke. Because everything is no more then a blip. How do ya spend 3 trillion $ , a couple billion at a time.

Most people who are broke are not broke from a 1 weekend shopping spree. They are broke because they overspeant over a period of time. We need to cut everything. A good round of budget cuts has something in it to **** off everyone.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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The total amount of economic and military aid to all foreign countries in 2010 was $52.7 billion. That's no more than a blip in a $3 1/2 trillion budget.
you must be a real high roller to consider 52.7 billion a blip lol
anyway it doesnt excuse taking 52.7 billion dollars out of the economy and working mans pockets to foment regime change and **** people off in foriegn lands.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:56 AM
 
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Yes, again during the GWB presidency there were NUMEROUS embassy attacks and nobody, not the media, not Democrats in elected positions, and certainly not conservatives were treating those attacks as a crisis. Now all of a sudden the standard has shifted, we have a very, very bad thing happen and now all that President has accomplished is in doubt.
You dont know the difference between terrorist attacks, and riots?
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thats what I was wondering. I always thought armed marines gaurded embassies.
Embassies, yes. Consulates, not usually. Embassies are sovereign territories and all nations have the legal right to defend that. Consulate offices are normally just rented office space.

In any case, the primary defense of embassies and consulate offices is entrusted to the host nation by mutual agreement.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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Romney made some, I believe, selfish remarks. If you read the transcripts of what he said, the first half of his speech was direct and forthright. I had no problems with it. Then, it turned in to a political club. If Romney wanted to really hurt the President, he'd have said something akin to: "Mr. President. You are in charge. How are we going to respond to a coordinated attack on our citizens?"
I agree with this tact (though at the press conference, no one knew it was a coordinated attack).

But again, the focus here is on the safety of Americans in this country and of our ambassadors. People here who are attacking Mitt Romney are doing the very thing they supposedly criticized Romney for doing. And so, by extension, those people should call themselves idiots, stupid, inconsiderate, buffoons, etc. etc. Not smart.
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:00 AM
 
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Romney made some, I believe, selfish remarks. If you read the transcripts of what he said, the first half of his speech was direct and forthright. I had no problems with it. Then, it turned in to a political club.
How is that any different than Obama yesterday making a 1 minute speech to discuss it, and then moving onto a "give me money" discussion in Las Vegas?

How do we respond to a cordinated attack? You put more security in place and remove the people that work there. you dont just leave them there to be slaughtered..
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Old 09-13-2012, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Their only concerned with what Romney does. Have you been sleeping the last 3 years were they completely ignore all of Obamas failures?

Could you list Obama's foreign policy failures for the rest of us who have been "sleeping?"
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