Striking Chicago schoolteachers claiming they work too hard...won't even send their own kids to public schools (crime, compare)
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If you know anything about large city politics, its that residency rules are ROUTINELY ignored, if not disregarded altogether. They're practically meaningless.
The residency rules in Detroit and Cleveland were one of the biggest jokes on the planet, and Chicago would be no different. Ensuring compliance is nearly impossible, and there are a million ways around it.
Well of course some people don't follow the rules. Besides comparing anything to that sewer of a city named Detroit doesn't help your point. Chaos reigns there so folks not following the rules there is to be expected.
The point is as per local law or whatever Chicago teachers are supposd to live in Chicago ( a silly law btw). So unless you have some data that shows the majority live outside of Chicago than we can safely assume many Chicago teachers live in Chicago.
Then again who knows it's been run by corrupt Dems for so long anything is possible.
Well of course some people don't follow the rules. Besides comparing anything to that sewer of a city named Detroit doesn't help your point. Chaos reigns there so folks not following the rules there is to be expected.
The point is as per local law or whatever Chicago teachers are supposd to live in Chicago ( a silly law btw). So unless you have some data that shows the majority live outside of Chicago than we can safely assume many Chicago teachers live in Chicago.
Then again who knows it's been run by corrupt Dems for so long anything is possible.
What data? That's my point....obviously "the data" will show that ALL Chicago teachers live within the city limits.
Anyone with $5 in his pocket would bet that very few live in Chicago. That is, unless the bettor was some lame from PG County.
This is like arguing with an infant.
Everyone on the planet except YOU knows that residency rules in large Rust Belt cities are generally meaningless. Folks figured out a way around them before they were even put in ink.
As for your Detroit comment, really....don't waste too much time on it. I'm looking out at the sun, which is something you won't be doing until next year sometime.
I agree that many find a way around the residency rules. I have heard tales of men in the CFD or CPD especially and also some teachers, who rent cheap rooms in the city or even use someone else's address, an older relative or something. But my MIL is a retired CPS paraprofessional and her husband is a retired teacher so I know quite a few CPS teachers via knowing them. My BIL also works for CPS and a lot of my husband's relatives are teachers. All of them live in the city. Though I don't doubt that probably 20% of the teachers don't live in the city, I would bet the vast majority do and their kids go to magnet,classical, or charter schools. My little nieces and nephews in Chicago don't go to regular neighborhood schools. If they don't get into the aforementioned public options, then they go to private school, which isn't all that expensive in Chicago depending on where you live and a CPS teacher would be able to afford to send their kid to a Catholic school or similarly priced school near their home. Both my husband and his brother did not go to their neighborhood school and instead went to elementary at a classical school and to a well regarded public high school, not in their immediate neighborhood even though they have tons of relatives working at the neighborhood schools.
I agree that many find a way around the residency rules. I have heard tales of men in the CFD or CPD especially and also some teachers, who rent cheap rooms in the city or even use someone else's address, an older relative or something. But my MIL is a retired CPS paraprofessional and her husband is a retired teacher so I know quite a few CPS teachers via knowing them. My BIL also works for CPS and a lot of my husband's relatives are teachers. All of them live in the city. Though I don't doubt that probably 20% of the teachers don't live in the city, I would bet the vast majority do and their kids go to magnet,classical, or charter schools. My little nieces and nephews in Chicago don't go to regular neighborhood schools. If they don't get into the aforementioned public options, then they go to private school, which isn't all that expensive in Chicago depending on where you live and a CPS teacher would be able to afford to send their kid to a Catholic school or similarly priced school near their home. Both my husband and his brother did not go to their neighborhood school and instead went to elementary at a classical school and to a well regarded public high school, not in their immediate neighborhood even though they have tons of relatives working at the neighborhood schools.
I'm somewhat in line with your thinking, except i think the numbers are a lot higher if investigated.
My cousin is a Chicago teacher...she lives in the city. Her husband is wealthy, they live in downtown, and they both grew up in the city and prefer urban living. They also have one child, and he attends school in the city.
My bet is that single teachers, young teachers, or married teachers with spouses that love urban living mostly live in the city. And if not mostly, then certainly a large minority.
There is always of course that group that may not like city living, but fear the daily commute, which is horrendous in Cook County. Most of them probably live in the city too. And of course, there's that group that lives in very cool and hip Chicago neighborhoods like portions of the Northside and Southside. Hell, if i lived in Hyde Park, i'd NEVER choose to live in a burb. Chicago's burbs are pretty milquetoast (well..the outer ring burbs are...not the inner ring ones) anyway....who in the hell would live in a place like Addison or Elk Grove Village? Those places are like living in a nightmare of absolute blandness.
But no one can convince me that the majority of married teachers live in the city limits. No way....and the same goes for cops, firemen, emergency workers, and any other city employees that make a fairly nice living. They'll do as you outlined...rent a room or use a fake address. Cleveland and Detroit city workers were doing that for years until those cities saw the futility in the rules and basically decided that they were unenforceable.
I'm somewhat in line with your thinking, except i think the numbers are a lot higher if investigated.
My cousin is a Chicago teacher...she lives in the city. Her husband is wealthy, they live in downtown, and they both grew up in the city and prefer urban living. They also have one child, and he attends school in the city.
My bet is that single teachers, young teachers, or married teachers with spouses that love urban living mostly live in the city. And if not mostly, then certainly a large minority.
There is always of course that group that may not like city living, but fear the daily commute, which is horrendous in Cook County. Most of them probably live in the city too. And of course, there's that group that lives in very cool and hip Chicago neighborhoods like portions of the Northside and Southside. Hell, if i lived in Hyde Park, i'd NEVER choose to live in a burb. Chicago's burbs are pretty milquetoast (well..the outer ring burbs are...not the inner ring ones) anyway....who in the hell would live in a place like Addison or Elk Grove Village? Those places are like living in a nightmare of absolute blandness.
But no one can convince me that the majority of married teachers live in the city limits. No way....and the same goes for cops, firemen, emergency workers, and any other city employees that make a fairly nice living. They'll do as you outlined...rent a room or use a fake address. Cleveland and Detroit city workers were doing that for years until those cities saw the futility in the rules and basically decided that they were unenforceable.
I think that if you consider the geographic layout of chicago vs. say Detroit might change some of those assumptions. Chicago radiates 180degrees due to the lake and as such you start running into more serious price and commuter time issues than in some cities.
I guess my point is that the city of Chicago has so many nice livable areas and of course you have the whole charter and magnet school set-up that I would have to say I'm more inclined to think that 80% living in the city is more realistic.
Now give me a city where the city itself is really rough or hyper expensive (san fran) then the % outside will go way up IMO.
Anyway, just my 2 pennies. Sorry for helping thread drift, have a great weekend everybody.
What is actually shocking is that public school teachers didn't demand that the taxpayers cover the tuition costs for their kids to go to private school. When you make upwards of twice what the average household does I guess you can afford it yourself.
His children are not old enough to enlist, besides they are females, many right wingers are against females in the military
If I recall, Many people felt President Busg's daughters should serve. I don't recall much uproar from right wingers. Personally I'd be edgy about being in the same unit with them. Ditto Prince Harry.
He should set the example of selfless public service and encourage his children to serve in the military.
If he's pushing for women in combat arms maybe they could do that.
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