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Old 09-17-2012, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ceece View Post
I'd work in a skecthy area but wouldn't take my kids there. Is it any different?
Do you encourage other people to bring their kids?
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by desertdetroiter View Post
I'm somewhat in line with your thinking, except i think the numbers are a lot higher if investigated.

My cousin is a Chicago teacher...she lives in the city. Her husband is wealthy, they live in downtown, and they both grew up in the city and prefer urban living. They also have one child, and he attends school in the city.

My bet is that single teachers, young teachers, or married teachers with spouses that love urban living mostly live in the city. And if not mostly, then certainly a large minority.

There is always of course that group that may not like city living, but fear the daily commute, which is horrendous in Cook County. Most of them probably live in the city too. And of course, there's that group that lives in very cool and hip Chicago neighborhoods like portions of the Northside and Southside. Hell, if i lived in Hyde Park, i'd NEVER choose to live in a burb. Chicago's burbs are pretty milquetoast (well..the outer ring burbs are...not the inner ring ones) anyway....who in the hell would live in a place like Addison or Elk Grove Village? Those places are like living in a nightmare of absolute blandness.

But no one can convince me that the majority of married teachers live in the city limits. No way....and the same goes for cops, firemen, emergency workers, and any other city employees that make a fairly nice living. They'll do as you outlined...rent a room or use a fake address. Cleveland and Detroit city workers were doing that for years until those cities saw the futility in the rules and basically decided that they were unenforceable.
Honestly, I think the majority of all city workers do live in the city. They get a lot of incentives to do so in regards to help with buying houses (downpayment grants and such). And like the poster above mentioned, there are pretty good neighborhoods in Chicago, even on the southside, Mt. Greenwood comes to mind, that have a high amount of city workers living there and they have excellent schools. Most people I know there have kids in magnet or classical schools. We were looking at moving to Chicago, as my husband wanted to transfer back home with his job and we considered a few neighborhoods with decent neighborhood schools and a lot of Charter, magnet, and Classical options for our kids if we do move back. If they didn't get into any of those and we lived in my MILs neighborhood, which has poor schools but is a nice looking neighborhood, then I would homeschool my kids with K12 online charter schools.

I agree with you on Chicago burbs, not many of them compare to living in Chicago itself and there are many areas in Chicago where you can get a suburban atmosphere while living in the city, like I said Mt. Greenwood, Beverly, certain parts of Morgan Park neighborhood come to mind. Even my MILs neighborhood is rather suburban, she lives in West Pullman, but there is more crime there than I would feel comfortable living around. You wouldn't know it to look at the neighborhood though.

And I don't want to interject race into it, but I would bet that most of the black teachers live in the city. They would be the ones to send their kids to private school if they couldn't get into charter, magnet, or classical schools instead of trying to cheat the system and living in the burbs. One of my husband's relatives, a teacher for CPS lives in Beverly but in an area not near the good Beverly schools, so he sends his son to private school after trying the neighborhood school for two weeks and finding it unacceptable, mostly based on the behavior of other children.

Originally Posted by Minethatbird View Post
Do you encourage other people to bring their kids?
Will say that I live in a poor neighborhood and I don't and wouldn't send my kids to our neighborhood school. My son goes to a charter and my daughter a private preschool. My son did go to a neighborhood school not to far from mine for pre-K to 2nd grade and I was fine with that school even though some of the behavior and language from his classmates was inappropriate IMO (one of his classmates told him to suck his you know what, and this boy was in the 1st grade). On a whole, I think he got an okay education and his teachers were very dedicated but since my son is not below average, I didn't think he got the attention he deserved in that school, so I moved him to the charter which has lower class sizes and he gets a lot of individual instruction.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Savoir Faire View Post
Chicago public schools have a waiver list that is a page long. I know dozens of teachers that have gotten waivers to live outside of the city. It's not that hard to get a waiver.
I doubt "dozens" = 40%?
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