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Before painting all these middle eastern people with the same brush and raining harsh military or financial reprisals i'd find out the real source of the dissension, is it just small groups of anti Americans inciting crowds to riot in the streets? or is the Anti American sentiment really representative of an entire Arab population?.
This rioting we are seeing on the news media is very reminiscent of Montreals student riots that were a nightly occurence throughout the summer by thousands of students every night,The media could have portrayed this situation as the people of Quebec rioting against the government when in reality it was just students protesting higher tuition costs, government changed,tuition raise was dropped, no more nightly riots.
Quebec is not the entire Middle East and it's not just about rioting college students either! The source of the dissension is their ancient, backward culture and their Islamic faith! The Muslim people will eventually rule the world in the not too distant future! Mark my words! My solution to the Middle east Crisis still stands! How many years has the United States tried diplomacy to get along with the Arab nation? It's just my POV and or MHO after what is going on in the Middle East today! The entire Islamic/Muslim/Arab nation is anti-America and they are willing to die for their religious belief in the name of their Prophet, Allah and the words written in their Holy Kuran aka Koran or Quran, but to each to their own interruptation of it's meaning!
Before painting all these middle eastern people with the same brush and raining harsh military or financial reprisals i'd find out the real source of the dissension, is it just small groups of anti Americans inciting crowds to riot in the streets? or is the Anti American sentiment really representative of an entire Arab population?.
This rioting we are seeing on the news media is very reminiscent of Montreal's student riots that were a nightly occurence throughout the summer by thousands of students every night,The media could have portrayed this situation as the people of Quebec rioting against the government when in reality it was just students protesting higher tuition costs, government changed,tuition raise was dropped, no more nightly riots.
We agree here, and we seldom do; I have a sister-in-law who is married to an Iranian national, a non-political petroleum engineer who had the misfortune to be trapped in Iran during the 1979-81 "troubles". She and her two sons stayed on my family's farm until Dad was able to find a way out. The two sons, now in their thirties, are fellow Penn State Alumni and as Westernized as any of us.
The entire Islamic world is, to far too great a degree, held hostage in the mind's image of Westerners by a gang of fanatics and unfortunately, the responsible majority is not yet large enough or educated enough to purge the radicals out. Until enlightenment takes its course, those of us on the other side have to retain our guard against the well-organized few still guided by the rules of the Seventh Century. My greatest wish would be for more of the moderates to speak out, and I cannot understand why the open-minded on both sides can't unite against the threat of reprisal by the fanatics.
My greatest wish would be for more of the moderates to speak out, and I cannot understand why the open-minded on both sides can't unite against the threat of reprisal by the fanatics.
These extremists are quick to levy reprisals, start talking out against them and you'll find your whole family beheaded the next day. powerful incentives to keeping ones mouth shut and staying out of trouble.
I'm not sure what the answer is in that part of the world as they seem bound and determined to pressure America and her allies into neverending conflict.
My brother is of the opinion that we should just nuke em all and let Allah sort it out
I'm hoping these people are just going through a phase in their social evolution and will at some point sort out their discontent hopefully sooner than later.
How about we load live pigs aboard as many C-130's as we can round up, and then drop them over all major middle eastern cities?
Yes, I am sure that dropping a bunch of animals to splatter onto pavement all over the middle east will turn the same men who are willing to strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves up for the promise of a mystical sky mansion or move to Afghanistan to get blown up by a drone into little quivering crybabies flying white flags of surrender.
Did you study international relations at Oxford, by chance?
Stop buying their dam oil! Their primary source of income is oil. You cut off their funds and they have to actually be productive.
And do what? Punish the very governments which are literally fighting to defend our embassies? They didn't start this!
Let's keep things in perspective, folks, before jumping off into the deep end. Most of those protestors are unemployed young men who have nothing else to do on a Friday afternoon. Rioting is a social event, much like the draft protests here back in the 60's. They indicate nothing else but that uneducated, bored and rootless people will do just about anything to relieve their daily circumstance, that people like that are easily manipulated by true radicals. We've seen it happen thousands of times.
And, don't forget this before rushing off to "punish" someone: There are 82 million Egyptian's. 5000 of them gathered up outside our embassy hardly represents them all.
One more thing: TV journalism is, by it's nature, tilted toward dramatic footage. It's their stock in trade, it's what they do. A camera focused on a small band of rioters is no more indicative of the true situation than that blown over house under construction in Mississippi represents the totality of hurricane Isaac. You saw it. Every network had a camera set up in front of that house as a back-drop for their on-air personality and it would be easy for the viewer to say, "OMG!" and come away with a skewed view of what the hurricane actually did. It's the same with these protests. The cameras catch the tiny minority acting like fools, but completely ignore the millions of Egyptian's going about their daily business without giving the riots a thought.
Oil is a commodity. If America stops buying from any individual supplier, other nations will (in aggregate) reorient where they get their supplies from, and the whole system will balance out... more or less. This is why the U.S. has to work so hard to get nations like Russia on board with sanctions against Iran - for certain kinds of goods, its only really coordinated economic actions that have any affect.
This is why the oil ploy never likely would have worked. Anyway, suppose that we find an alternate form of cheap energy that makes burning oil obsolete. It wouldn't matter because the Islamic fundamentalists have already used the oil wealth to build out their networks, to recruit, organize, & train.
Trying to attain 'energy independence' at this point would be an exercise in barn-door closing after the horse left.
Before painting all these middle eastern people with the same brush and raining harsh military or financial reprisals i'd find out the real source of the dissension, is it just small groups of anti Americans inciting crowds to riot in the streets? or is the Anti American sentiment really representative of an entire Arab population?.
This rioting we are seeing on the news media is very reminiscent of Montreals student riots that were a nightly occurence throughout the summer by thousands of students every night,The media could have portrayed this situation as the people of Quebec rioting against the government when in reality it was just students protesting higher tuition costs, government changed,tuition raise was dropped, no more nightly riots.
Here, read up on this. Hundreds in one place, thousands in another.
More than a handful if they are able to overtake an Embassy and lower the flags.
Stop buying their dam oil! Their primary source of income is oil. You cut off their funds and they have to actually be productive.
I would love to be able to not buy their oil. But until the left is willing to get every ounce of natural energy in our own country, build more nuclear plants, ect how will that every be possible?
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