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Originally Posted by roysoldboy
What Berrigan did was illegal and he needed to pay his debt to society for doing it. Maybe you can't see that but it is nevertheless the law.
Society does love its scapegoats, eh?
I can only hope there's a special circle of hell reserfved for those like LBJ, McNamara, Nixon et al who betrayed that same society's trust in them and were never held accountable.
What Berrigan did was illegal and he needed to pay his debt to society for doing it. Maybe you can't see that but it is nevertheless the law.
That is fine. I have no qualms about the principle of accepting the consequences. It is worth noting that whatever transgression he committed pales in comparison to dropping bombs on the Cambodian people, amongst all the others, correct?
If that last paragraph is really what you "know" about Christians, then, I'm sorry but you don't know jack. And I refuse to waste my time on people that don't even understand what they are talking about. Sorry.
Of course you won't debate this any further. There are many Christians who advocate principles directly contrary to the principles of Jesus. You can see more than a few right here, justifying killings off all kinds, advocating revenge upon enemies and denigrating the poor. Why deny something anyone can see on this very forum?
I can only hope there's a special circle of hell reserfved for those like LBJ, McNamara, Nixon et al who betrayed that same society's trust in them and were never held accountable.
The pathetic thing is that Kissinger and McNamara and now Rumsfeld and "Condi" are treated with honor and respect. Imagine any other aspect of society in which those who willfully deceive others into needless killing were celebrated? We are a nasty society with some depraved values.
Of course you won't debate this any further. There are many Christians who advocate principles directly contrary to the principles of Jesus. You can see more than a few right here, justifying killings off all kinds, advocating revenge upon enemies and denigrating the poor. Why deny something anyone can see on this very forum?
Yes, and this forum is the perfect model to look at. Give me a break
Yes, and this forum is the perfect model to look at. Give me a break
It's a fabulous model of modern conservatives. I get to listen to them every day. They really have bought into this "I got mine now you get yours" Objectivism when it comes to politics. Way back when, conservatives spoke of the common good and communitarian values. Now that's regarded as "commiespeak." Pathetic.
What Berrigan did was illegal and he needed to pay his debt to society for doing it. Maybe you can't see that but it is nevertheless the law.
It was a good thing for George Washington's sake that we won the revolutionary war ... otherwise, his "debt to society" would have been death ... carried out on the orders of King George, seeing that "society" was reimbursed for George's transgressions.
Maybe you can't see that, but thank goodness George concluded that sometimes laws need to be broken ... particularly when the law is unjust, or when the government that makes those laws is behaving in a criminal manner.
It was a good thing for George Washington's sake that we won the revolutionary war ... otherwise, his "debt to society" would have been death ... carried out on the orders of King George, seeing that "society" was reimbursed for George's transgressions.
Maybe you can't see that, but thank goodness George concluded that sometimes laws need to be broken ... particularly when the law is unjust, or when the government that makes those laws is behaving in a criminal manner.
Sadly, some cannot see that.
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