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Old 09-17-2012, 06:16 AM
 
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Serious protests in China getting bigger and more furious over the rocky islets known as Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China- calling for war with Japan. Hillary Clinton tried talking to China about the issue and she was told to "$*&# off!!" In 1968 is was discovered that the Senkaku Islands are sitting on or are close to oil deposits.

China is talking about negotiations while getting the warships out in the water. Japan is keeping a cool head (until Japanese citizens get out of China??), but Chinese protesters are attacked anything Japanese (business, cars - people in cars) and apparently the Chinese police aren't doing very much to intervene.

East China Sea flashpoint for Sino-Japanese war? | World War 4 Report
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Posturing over the Senkakus | The Japan Times Online
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Despite Japan's rather restrained approach to the Senkaku issue, China has reacted strongly. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao said that the Senkakus are "an inherent part of China's territory" and that "China will never budge even half an inch over the sovereignty and territorial issue." Two Chinese surveillance and patrol ships recently arrived at the area.

The Chinese Foreign Ministry blasted the nationalization of the three islets as "totally illegal and invalid" and "a gross violation of China's sovereignty over its own territory" and said that if Japan's unilateral action causes "serious consequences," Japan should take full responsibility.
In the event of a war, OMG!!!, what will happen to all those factories, contracted by Americans, producing goods for America and American-owned businesses in China?? Will we be able to survive without their imports???
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:21 AM
 
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We could stop taxing them right out of the country and bring threm back here.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:32 AM
 
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There will not be a war, Japan does not even has an army. If there is a war, you bet it is the China that theaten US as the world #1 as it was in the cold war with USSR.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:49 AM
 
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There will not be a war, Japan does not even has an army. If there is a war, you bet it is the China that theaten US as the world #1 as it was in the cold war with USSR.
The U.S is not the worlds number 1 anything any more. We're on a slow decline to mediocrity.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:03 AM
 
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The u.s. not the #1 anymore think again... F-22's and the U.S. sub fleet.

There is no other blue water Navy in the world, this would be a Naval & Air campaign.. There's a reason the F-22's are forward deployed right now to the Far East.

The U.S. sub fleet would shut down all shipping lanes to China and would cripple their economy within one month.

There are two types of ocean going vessels... Subs and targets....
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:09 AM
 
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The u.s. not the #1 anymore think again... F-22's and the U.S. sub fleet.

There is no other blue water Navy in the world, this would be a Naval & Air campaign.. There's a reason the F-22's are forward deployed right now to the Far East.

The U.S. sub fleet would shut down all shipping lanes to China and would cripple their economy within one month.

There are two types of ocean going vessels... Subs and targets....
The united states cant even beat a bunch of goat herders in the mountains of afghanistan. We're no longer number one in education, in less than a decade china's economy will pass ours. And if liberals stay in power they're going to cut the defense budget, so we won't have the "#1" military in the world any more.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:16 AM
 
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The U.S is not the worlds number 1 anything any more. We're on a slow decline to mediocrity.
We're still #1 in military spending
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:19 AM
 
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The u.s. not the #1 anymore think again... F-22's and the U.S. sub fleet.

There is no other blue water Navy in the world, this would be a Naval & Air campaign.. There's a reason the F-22's are forward deployed right now to the Far East.

The U.S. sub fleet would shut down all shipping lanes to China and would cripple their economy within one month.

There are two types of ocean going vessels... Subs and targets....
Do you really think China will sit back and watch their economy drain while there is a fleet of US subs blocking them? Well rest assured, either China will call the US on its debt, or China will go down with a fight.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:34 AM
 
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The U.S is not the worlds number 1 anything any more. We're on a slow decline to mediocrity.
The US would be smart to realize that and embrace it.
We had our day, now it's time to pass the baton.
For the money we spend on the military, everyone in the US could have health care and an education.
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Old 09-17-2012, 07:37 AM
 
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There is alot of bad blood between those nations. Does anybody think that China has forgotten about the Nanking Massacre? What a horrible, horrible thing the Japanese did here.


Nanking Massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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