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Old 09-19-2012, 07:15 AM
 
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Whenever libs complain about FOX news and conservative talk radio, keep in mind that the liberal media created them. Back when journalists actually reported news and investigated events, regardless of political party implications, there was the traditional television news outlets and newspapers.

In the last thirty years, the media has moved so far to the left that they have become a marxist propaganda unit which no longer reports the news. ANY NEWS which may have negative implications for the liberals in political power are simply ignored or buried.

When the US media has neglected its duty and become a propaganda unit, people will seek out other sources of information. The mainstream media is its worst enemy, as they have made themselves irrelevant through incompetence and betrayal of thier ethics.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Yes, mainstream media isn't what it used to be, it's simply an outlet for whining pundits at this point.

However, Fox News is part of the problem, not the solution.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The mainstream media is neither liberal nor conservative. The media created this fluff when it shifted news departments from public services designed actually report events to "separate profit centers". These are just emotional filler between the advertisements.

FOX NOISE is pure emotion between the shysters.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:02 AM
 
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The idea of a Republican friendly news source began with Roger Ailes back when he worked as media adviser for Richard Nixon. Roger Ailes Secret Nixon-Era Blueprint for FOX News.
To act as though it was some spontaneous creation to counteract "marxist propaganda" is either a known lie on your part or fevered fantasy. Rupert Murdoch would have am all puppy news channel if he thought it would make him money. Ailes, however, is a true believer and ideologue and Murdoch saw a money maker in what he was pitching.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Yes, mainstream media isn't what it used to be, it's simply an outlet for whining pundits at this point.

However, Fox News is part of the problem, not the solution.
That's the truth. I watched MSNBC for about 3 hours last night and couldn't believe the whining and screeching. It was embarrassing.

Fox does the same thing but not as much and with much more honesty. Fox presents both sides; MSNBC just their side, and honestly, their pundits are hideous to look at AND to listen to.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Fox does present both sides. Their side and their other side.
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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What the...

The idea of a Republican friendly news source began with Roger Ailes back when he worked as media adviser for Richard Nixon. Roger Ailes Secret Nixon-Era Blueprint for FOX News.
To act as though it was some spontaneous creation to counteract "marxist propaganda" is either a known lie on your part or fevered fantasy. Rupert Murdoch would have am all puppy news channel if he thought it would make him money. Ailes, however, is a true believer and ideologue and Murdoch saw a money maker in what he was pitching.
Two questions:

-Why would there ever be a need for a Republican friendly news source?
-Why is there an audience now?
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Old 09-19-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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Two questions:

-Why would there ever be a need for a Republican friendly news source?
Because the Republican message at the time was not a popular one, which is kind of strange when you consider how liberal Nixon was in comparison with today. Ailes wanted network news to improve the image of the administration and help push Republican policies, two things that network Ombudsmen usually didn't allow.

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-Why is there an audience now?
There is money to be made in giving people entertainment in the form of information, especially if that information confirms their own biases. Remember that cable news in the US is all about selling advertising with the news being the hook to bring in viewers to the ads. There was always an audience, there just weren't the media outlets. The demographics of FOX News viewers and talk radio listeners is mostly self identified Republican, older and white, and male and moth mediums provide excellent opportunities to sell advertising to a large, but shrinking portion of the population.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Because the Republican message at the time was not a popular one, which is kind of strange when you consider how liberal Nixon was in comparison with today. Ailes wanted network news to improve the image of the administration and help push Republican policies, two things that network Ombudsmen usually didn't allow.


There is money to be made in giving people entertainment in the form of information, especially if that information confirms their own biases. Remember that cable news in the US is all about selling advertising with the news being the hook to bring in viewers to the ads. There was always an audience, there just weren't the media outlets. The demographics of FOX News viewers and talk radio listeners is mostly self identified Republican, older and white, and male and moth mediums provide excellent opportunities to sell advertising to a large, but shrinking portion of the population.
So why wasn't there a need for a competing media outlet for the self identified Democrats, younger, more diverse and female demographic at that time? And what was the Republican message at the time that was so unpopular and why did Roger Ailes decide that the time was ripe for an unpopular message?

This is from the Wiki page (although I'm not sure how accurate it is):

"After the announcement of Microsoft and NBC's partnership to create an online and cable news outlet, MSNBC, taking the place of America's Talking, Ailes left the network in February 1996 and was hired by Rupert Murdoch to create Fox News Channel for News Corporation. In addition, eighty-nine additional employees of the NBC networks left with Ailes to help with the new channel's creation for launch, on October 7, 1996."
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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The mainstream media is neither liberal nor conservative. The media created this fluff when it shifted news departments from public services designed actually report events to "separate profit centers". These are just emotional filler between the advertisements.

FOX NOISE is pure emotion between the shysters.

Wow-

You really do not think that the mainstream media is liberal? That shows you are standing far, far to the left.

The American media is a marxist propaganda outlet. It is embarassing. One simply needs to watch ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, PBS, or MSNBC and see how EVERY news story has a liberal slant. The press will NEVER question Obama or report on his mistakes. Witness-

No reporting on the fact that the Libyans warned the Obama admin about potential attacks
No replays of the Obama "redistribution" video
No reports on Fast and Furious
Limits on reporting the terrible economic situation
No negative reports on Obamacare


The mainstream media is a marxist propaganda hub. Fox news is the only dissenting opinion on television. Had the media done thier job, there would be no Fox news.
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