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Old 09-19-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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All you "Democrats" sound just like them though

Actually there's a lot of party members in congress too...
Pretty impressive, considering there are only 2,000 of them in the entire country.

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Old 09-19-2012, 05:28 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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Pretty impressive, considering there are only 2,000 of them in the entire country.

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The goals of the Democrat party are the same as CPUSA though

Why is that???
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:30 PM
 
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History is fun! Let's review each of those goals from 41 years ago and see if they actually came true.

1. So nuclear war is preferable?
2. So we should have nuked North Vietnam?
3. It's never been tried.
4. OK, let's ban trade with China and watch Wal*Mart prices triple overnight.
5. N/A - the Soviet Union no longer exists.
6. The US provides zero aid to Cuba and minimal aid to North Korea.
7. Thank you, Richard Nixon.
8. N/A - Germany is unified now. The West won.
9. Done.
10. N/A - the Soviet Union no longer exists.
11. Paranoid fantasy.
12. Done. It's a First Amendment thing.
13. Would you want to have to pledge loyalty to Barack Obama?
14. WTF?
15. Paranoid fantasy.
16. Paranoid fantasy, unless you're one of the 80% of Christians who claim to be victimized by gays demanding equal rights.
17. Paranoid fantasy.
18. Paranoid fantasy.
19. The last student riot was over a football coach being dismissed.
20. Paranoid fantasy.
21. Paranoid fantasy.
22. Paranoid fantasy.
23. Paranoid fantasy.
24. Done. It's now legal to say "f**k Obama" online, hooray!
25. Done -- thanks to the magic of the free-enterprise system.
26. Done -- because 2 out of those 3 are. Still not sure about "degeneracy," whatever that is.
27. Paranoid fantasy.
28. It's still perfectly legal to pray in school.
29. Conservatives are the ones who want to amend it (to ban same-sex marriage and abortion).
30. Paranoid fantasy.
31. Paranoid fantasy. Like anyone knows anything about anyone's history anymore, much less Russia's.
32. Paranoid fantasy.
33. Done. And still the Communists haven't taken over. Incredible!
34. See 33.
35. Paranoid fantasy.
36. What unions?
37. LOL
38. Remind me, who closed all the mental hospitals again?
39. Paranoid fantasy
40. No need to "encourage" them, they happened anyway.
41. Paranoid fantasy.
42. Tell the Tea Party.
43. Debatable.
44. Nope, it's still under control of 1 nation: Panama.
45. Paranoid fantasy.

OP, if you're really stuck in 1965 and you think there's an imminent danger of a Communist takeover, have I got a movie for you!
Excellent rebuttal based on pure facts. The OP's list sounds like the ramblings of someone high on bath salts.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:32 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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The goals of the Democrat party are the same as CPUSA though

Why is that???
No they aren't. You're lying.

Why is that???
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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Are we there yet???

45 Goals of Communism

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.
7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.
10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.
11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.
13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.
14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers.
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.



The libs do not realize that they have been played for fools by the communists and conned into adopting "liberal" views and policy (which is essentially the goals of communism). As long as we have a dull witted componant of the population that does not realize that their "values" come from the mind of Stalin, we will always have "useful idiots" who will promote these goals unwittingly.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:37 PM
 
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it's alive and well comrade, you must stop being a neocommie and joint the party!!!

The goals of the cpusa get voiced here 24/7 365 days a year...

our ideas » cpusa
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:41 PM
 
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All you "Democrats" sound just like them though

Actually there's a lot of party members in congress too...

You need to stop being such a NeoCommie and join up too!!!
And all you Conservatives sound like Nazis under the control of Hitler.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:44 PM
 
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That website didn't look very communist to me...
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:45 PM
 
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The libs do not realize that they have been played for fools by the communists and conned into adopting "liberal" views and policy (which is essentially the goals of communism). As long as we have a dull witted componant of the population that does not realize that their "values" come from the mind of Stalin, we will always have "useful idiots" who will promote these goals unwittingly.
Yes liberals are what the communists refer to as useful idiots. Once their use is done they will be disposed of.
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The goals of the Democrat party are the same as CPUSA though
Says the guy who can't tell the difference between 1963 and 2012.

There is simply no way to fully account for frothing nutburgery.
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