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Old 09-20-2012, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Philadelphia's government is chock full of idiots.
Government and idiots is redundant.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:40 PM
 
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Wow, I would like to see a 'before' photo. How on earth did the postage stamp sized area have 40 ton of trash on it? Did he tear down a building or something?
He says 40 tons of debris - people exaggerate, so it's probably about half that. Also, he tore up the old double-width sidewalk in front of the lot and replaced it. I imagine that old concrete contributed a lot to the weight of the debris. Also, he leveled the lot he probably hauled away a quite of bit of dirt (the pictures I've seen show the lot being elevated).
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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He says 40 tons of debris - people exaggerate, so it's probably about half that. Also, he tore up the old double-width sidewalk in front of the lot and replaced it. I imagine that old concrete contributed a lot to the weight of the debris. Also, he leveled the lot he probably hauled away a quite of bit of dirt (the pictures I've seen show the lot being elevated).
Thanks. The concrete and dirt explains a lot weight-wise.
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Old 09-20-2012, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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It did cross my mind that cherry trees have to be watered, and require some maintenance. But wouldn't they be beautiful when in bloom? That is giving back to the community, and he gets a big FU.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:44 PM
 
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Perhaps this is the crux of the issue, city imposed anti-improvement or anti-gentrification of neighborhoods.
Claude, we can always depend on you to defend the victim class.

But I digress...

"Summary: If your are a minority, the government defines gentrification as "bad" -- especially if it means that more "whites" are moving into your neighborhood. But if you are "white", the government defines gentrification as "good" as long as it means that you have to leave the neighborhood so that more minorities can live there."

How strange since the historically African American Point Breeze neighborhood where this lot is located is the object of an intense "redevelopment" program by the City of Philadelphia and its liberal Democratic African American mayor, Michael Nutter. In point of fact, when opposition by one neighborhood group proposed a bill to suspend new permits for new commercial and residential structures it was the Mayors office that stronly opposed the legislation.

You should know your subject before posting silly quotes from right wing websites.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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Claude, we can always depend on you to defend the victim class.

But I digress...

"Summary: If your are a minority, the government defines gentrification as "bad" -- especially if it means that more "whites" are moving into your neighborhood. But if you are "white", the government defines gentrification as "good" as long as it means that you have to leave the neighborhood so that more minorities can live there."

How strange since the historically African American Point Breeze neighborhood where this lot is located is the object of an intense "redevelopment" program by the City of Philadelphia and its liberal Democratic African American mayor, Michael Nutter. In point of fact, when opposition by one neighborhood group proposed a bill to suspend new permits for new commercial and residential structures it was the Mayors office that stronly opposed the legislation.

You should know your subject before posting silly quotes from right wing websites.
what's your problem? I said perhaps that was the issue. What is your explanation for their threatening to sue this man for improving this lot? Why wouldn't the city clean it up after numerous requests? Why would they object to someone else doing so? Gentrification is the only thing that makes any sense to me - have another?
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:11 AM
 
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So they want him to put back the 40 tons of trash?
Brilliant!
That's so they can cite him for littering.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:24 AM
 
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The main question is why did they deny him in the first place, the argument you will most likely hear is "liability" but that doesn't hold water because they could of demanded everything was done to code.

If I were to take a guess the city denied him because they would have been in violation of union contracts.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Westchester County
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The government does not like competition. They are suing the developer not because he still their works, they are suing because the developer make them look bad.

BINGO!!!! We have a winner. Anytime you show up a government entity you must expect a backlash. Especially when it makes the press. In the end the boys in Tammany Hall always win!!
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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This story reminds me of an Eagle Scout who cleaned up a park trail and was attacked for it by a local union leader because the work should have been done by the union (but never was).

What their local news should do is find the names of the government individuals involved in the decision to pursue the developer and publish their names, photos, and contact info for the local community to fully express their feelings in the good Philly way.
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