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Old 09-21-2012, 04:50 AM
 
Location: Italy
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The issue is that there is no way to make it work.

Your "Peace" signature is crap.

Socialism has killed 100 MILLION people in the lest century and today destroys a peoples liberty.

Give it up already.

"You cannot make short people taller by cutting the legs off of tall people."

Capitalism is boss....anti-capitalism supporters are basically envious losers who cannot compete.
That's one way to see things.


Peace is possible, if we work at it.
brian
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:51 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Oh, that's right.....nothing is Obama's responsibility.
It's not a question of responsability.


Peace,
brian
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:53 AM
 
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That's one way to see things.


Peace is possible, if we work at it.
brian
People who are productive members of society are basically peaceful.

Just look at the occupy slobs.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:55 AM
 
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It's not a question of responsability.


Peace,
brian
Sure it is.

obama has used the blame game since day one.

He is not a leader by any definition of the word.

Leaders take responsibility for everything.....obama places blame for everything.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:03 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Sure it is.

obama has used the blame game since day one.

He is not a leader by any definition of the word.

Leaders take responsibility for everything.....obama places blame for everything.
Sounds like you're doing a lot of blaming here ^^^.


Peace,
brian
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:07 AM
 
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Sounds like you're doing a lot of blaming here ^^^.


Peace,
brian
Just stating facts.

No other president has ever spent their entire time in office blaming others....including blaming ATM's!
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:52 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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What do you think money is? It's a unit of value. Just like your labor, skill, etc.

You're a cobbler and you need bread. So you trade some shoes you made for a few loaves of bread. Great.

What if you're an architect, and the baker doesn't need a new house? Then what? Do you starve? No - you trade some of the value you have created (e.g. blueprints) with someone who needs it, and in return you get something else of value (dollars) which also has value to the baker, so now you can go trade your dollars for his bread.

People like you always make me laugh. "We should just trade our goods and labor! Money is eeeeeevil!" You don't even realize that that IS capitalism.
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Old 09-21-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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Capitalism is not a form of government it is a system of economy that rewards consumption of resources

Capitalism does encourage us to use resources efficiently but not sustainably or in a way that benefits the majority of the plant and animal life on earth.
Nitpicking/red herring argument there Cascadian. I think I was clear as possible, form of "government" i.e. the economy that said government lets lose.

Nice that you find that point to pick - and ignore that it isn't capitalism you have a beef with, but freedom
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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well a bunch of people tried that at zuccotti park, just bumming around protesting wallstreet corporatism. I seem to remember them being ostracized and eventually forcibly removed by the police
so no I do believe there are rules against that.
There is plenty of public land up there in Alaska, so have fun.
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Old 09-21-2012, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Capitalism based on full information and free trade within a completely open market is a highly moral system that is self regulating. Too bad dishonest and manipulative businessmen conspire to eliminate the free market and full disclosure aspects of capitalism as soon as possible. It is very difficult to make a profit if your customers know how much it cost you to obtain your product because he will only pay what he considers a reasonable markup. Just consider the effect on prices if every used car salesman disclosed all the reasons a used car was sold by the previous owner.

The problem is what we call Capitalism does not reward full information or free trade in an open and free market. What it does reward is insider trading on secret information, lying about conditions and limiting access to the market. I do not know what to call our system but it is not capitalism. It is also completely amoral blending into immoral. Sometimes it actually rewards illegality as in hiring illegal workers to compete with legitimate citizens
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