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Old 10-06-2012, 05:35 PM
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Well wooppadoo! Any one here pro-jihad?
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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From what I understand, Jihad means war.
Nice to see many in this thread Anti War, or against Wars.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:56 PM
 
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From what I understand, Jihad means war.
Nice to see many in this thread Anti War, or against Wars.
Nah, that's what it means to us.

It's closer to being a religious struggle.

It was stolen by radical elements and turned into a holy war.
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:51 PM
 
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Stupid waste of money. I live in a big city and everyone, I mean everyone I know is anti-jihad.

Do you really think that many New Yorkers support jihad?? If you do, I have a bridge in Alaska to sell you.
Surely up there in the north country there aren't so many Muslim Brotherhood members. They are there just as they are here and will be moving to take over both out governments very soon.
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Old 10-06-2012, 07:28 PM
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Nah, that's what it means to us.

It's closer to being a religious struggle.

It was stolen by radical elements and turned into a holy war.
Nah! It is an inner an outer struggle - both aspects are involved - nothing was stolen just left out by convenience. For the non-muslim we all know what jihad means - Thanks for playing!
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:17 PM
 
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Nah, that's what it means to us.

It's closer to being a religious struggle.

It was stolen by radical elements and turned into a holy war.
Yes. "Jihad" does translate to self-struggle.

And so does Mein Kampf.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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Nah! It is an inner an outer struggle - both aspects are involved - nothing was stolen just left out by convenience. For the non-muslim we all know what jihad means - Thanks for playing!
No idea what you mean since you did not really explain.

I'm basing my interpretation from spending a few years studying muslim/middle eastern culture when I was in the US Army.

Jihad can be interpreted in many ways by different people who would argue about the greater overall meaning but the word does not mean "war".

Like it or not that's just how it is. Now if you have some personal experience, or insight that you would like to share, please do, I'm all ears.

What parts were left out and by whom? Do tell.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:25 PM
 
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Yes. "Jihad" does translate to self-struggle.

And so does Mein Kampf.

Nice!!!

Thanks for the information.

I've never read Mein Kompf to be honest, did you like it?
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:42 PM
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No idea what you mean since you did not really explain.

I'm basing my interpretation from spending a few years studying muslim/middle eastern culture when I was in the US Army.

Jihad can be interpreted in many ways by different people who would argue about the greater overall meaning but the word does not mean "war".

Like it or not that's just how it is. Now if you have some personal experience, or insight that you would like to share, please do, I'm all ears.

What parts were left out and by whom? Do tell.
By you and the moderates, the left, and all apologists for this bane on society. The part that Jihad incorporates war as a means of their struggle. Muhammad is their prime example - his deeds are exemplary. Read the commentators and jurisprudence it's there as plain as day. I never said it meant 'war' - the word means struggle - and that incorporates many facets of life - both internal and external struggles.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:48 PM
 
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By you and the moderates, the left, and all apologists for this bane on society. The part that Jihad incorporates war as a means of their struggle. Muhammad is their prime example - his deeds are exemplary. Read the commentators and jurisprudence it's there as plain as day. I never said it meant 'war' - the word means struggle - and that incorporates many facets of life - both internal and external struggles.
Okay, Francis. Calm down. Thanks for agreeing that it means struggle.

You have no idea what you're talking about do you? You could have just said so.

I used to dip the tips of my rounds in the juices from my Ham slice MRE so that the muslims would go to hell.

Shukran.
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