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Oh, and you said "in spite of any evidence otherwise."
The only "evidence" we have that it wasn't racially motivated was the man saying so. Sorry, but that's not enough for me. He had news cameras in his face. Do you REALLY expect him to have admitted that his act was racially motivated if it, indeed, was? I don't.
The only fact we have is that the chair was hanging from the tree. Everything else is mere speculation.
Yes, there is no evidence that he intended anything more then he said he did.
You declared him guilty with out any evidence. Purely based on your judgement, based on your prejudices, with nothing to substantiate them. Under our system of justice you must have evidence that what he was guilty. And there is none.
How can anyone NOT think that's racist. I agree it gets overused a lot but this is pretty obvious. If he just placed a chair on his front lawn with a sign that says NoBama then I would say it's not but the fact that he took the time to tie a string to the chair and place it up in a tree shows intent to me. Frankly this guy should be embarrassed and everyone, Republican and Democrat, should be disgusted by this.
Not so, he suspended a chair from a string in his front yard to demonstrate his opinion that he agreed the chair was empty. How is an empty chair any less of a statement that he agrees the chair is empty? It his his civil right to suspend anything he wants from a string in his front yard and to make any political statement he wants. Do you not believe in civil rights?
Not so, he suspended a chair from a string in his front yard to demonstrate his opinion that he agreed the chair was empty. How is an empty chair any less of a statement that he agrees the chair is empty? It his his civil right to suspend anything he wants from a string in his front yard and to make any political statement he wants. Do you not believe in civil rights?
He went to a lot of trouble to make that point. I thought "put a chair in your lawn" day was Labor Day weekend? He hung the chair. That depicts hanging.
Yes, there is no evidence that he intended anything more then he said he did.
You declared him guilty with out any evidence. Purely based on your judgement, based on your prejudices, with nothing to substantiate them. Under our system of justice you must have evidence that what he was guilty. And there is none.
No evidence = not guilty.
I'm not in a court of law. I didn't declare him guilty. I stated my opinion, which is what you were asking for with your poll, isn't it, Cptn? My opinion (just as everyone else's) will naturally be based on my judgement and my prejudices.
In my opinion, his actions and reaction were all suspect. You and I are different people who come from different walks of life. My opinion stands.
And I have incessantly stated that you, nor anyone else, knows if his actions were racially motivated. So none of us can make that determination.
He went to a lot of trouble to make that point. I thought "put a chair in your lawn" day was Labor Day weekend? He hung the chair. That depicts hanging.
A chair on the lawn is just a chair on the lawn. He wanted to make a political statement that he agreed with Clint Eastwood that the "chair was empty", so he suspended an "empty chair" and put a flag on it to draw attention to his political statementy. That is not a depiction of a hanging. Your insistence on seeing it as racist, is bigotry.
I'm not in a court of law. I didn't declare him guilty. I stated my opinion, which is what you were asking for with your poll, isn't it, Cptn? My opinion (just as everyone else's) will naturally be based on my judgement and my prejudices.
In my opinion, his actions and reaction were all suspect. You and I are different people who come from different walks of life. My opinion stands.
And I have incessantly stated that you, nor anyone else, knows if his actions were racially motivated. So none of us can make that determination.
No, I did not ask for your opinon. I asked:
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Was the hanging chair a racist statement?
- Yes it was obviously a racist statement. - No, it was not necessarily intended as a racist statement.
You keep insisting, in your opinion, that it was a racist statement, that he must be considered guilty without any proof otherwise.
That is an unacceptable determination of guilt in any civilized world.
I am saying there is no evidence he is guilty. Period.
And your insistence that he is guilty, in your opinion, is bigotry.
You are saying, in your opinion, he must be considered guilty until proven innocent.
That is an unacceptable determination of guilt in any civilized world.
I am saying there is no evidence he is guilty. Period.
And your insistence that he is guilty, in your opinion, is bigotry.
Again, were you not asking for opinions with your poll??? Regardless of WHAT my opinion is (and I'm free to have my own opinion), can I not state it since you asked? And did I not already state that I am not in a court of law? I did not determine his "guilt?" I simply stated my OPINION. I will say for the trillionth time...YOU don't know if he is "guilty" or not. You do NOT know what his intentions were. You will NEVER know. I am not trying to be correct. I am just expressing what you asked for....my opinion.
Or wait....if my opinion opposes yours, I shouldn't state it? Is that it?
If so, maybe you should've only given one option in your "poll."
You keep insisting, in your opinion, that it was a racist statement, that he must be considered guilty without any proof otherwise.
That is an unacceptable determination of guilt in any civilized world.
I am saying there is no evidence he is guilty. Period.
And your insistence that he is guilty, in your opinion, is bigotry.
LOL w/ the "guilty" thing. Okay, you win. You can continue to play attorney/judge/jury if you want to.
But anyway...now that you've edited your post...we are ALMOST understanding each other. It's my OPINION. That's IT.
Wasn't that a poll in your OP? And isn't a poll a survey of public opinion??? So yes, with your poll, you asked for my OPINION. Which is what I have been GIVING you.
A chair on the lawn is just a chair on the lawn. He wanted to make a political statement that he agreed with Clint Eastwood that the "chair was empty", so he suspended an "empty chair" and put a flag on it to draw attention to his political statementy. That is not a depiction of a hanging. Your insistence on seeing it as racist, is bigotry.
Uh, huh!
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