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A cute verbal trick is calling abortion a 'healthcare decision,' when in fact it rarely involves 'healthcare.' Far more often than not, abortion is unrelated to what most normal people think of as the 'health' of the woman.
Don't get me wrong. A woman can have multiple abortions [many do] for all I care. But the decision usually revolves around money, work, school, too many kids, stuff like that, not her health.
Are you unaware of the health impacts of pregnancy and childbirth?
Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:
§ exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
§ altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
§ nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
§ heartburn and indigestion
§ constipation
§ weight gain
§ dizziness and light-headedness
§ bloating, swelling, fluid retention
§ hemmorhoids
§ abdominal cramps
§ yeast infections
§ congested, bloody nose
§ acne and mild skin disorders
§ skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
§ mild to severe backache and strain
§ increased headaches
§ difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
§ increased urination and incontinence
§ bleeding gums
§ pica
§ breast pain and discharge
§ swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain
§ difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
§ inability to take regular medications
§ shortness of breath
§ higher blood pressure
§ hair loss
§ tendency to anemia
§ curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
§ infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
(pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
§ extreme pain on delivery
§ hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
§ continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:
§ stretch marks (worse in younger women)
§ loose skin
§ permanent weight gain or redistribution
§ abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
§ pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)
§ changes to breasts
§ varicose veins
§ scarring from episiotomy or c-section
§ other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
§ increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
§ loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
Occasional complications and side effects:
§ complications of episiotomy
§ spousal/partner abuse
§ hyperemesis gravidarum
§ temporary and permanent injury to back
§severe scarring requiring later surgery
(especially after additional pregnancies)
§ dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
§ pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
§ eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
§ gestational diabetes
§ placenta previa
§ anemia (which can be life-threatening)
§ thrombocytopenic purpura
§ severe cramping
§ embolism (blood clots)
§ medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
§ diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
§ mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
§ serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
§ hormonal imbalance
§ ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
§ broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
§ hemorrhage and numerous other complications of delivery
§ refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
§ aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
§ severe post-partum depression and psychosis
§ research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
§ research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
§ research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease
Are you unaware of the health impacts of pregnancy and childbirth?
Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:
§ exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
§ altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
§ nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
§ heartburn and indigestion
§ constipation
§ weight gain
§ dizziness and light-headedness
§ bloating, swelling, fluid retention
§ hemmorhoids
§ abdominal cramps
§ yeast infections
§ congested, bloody nose
§ acne and mild skin disorders
§ skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
§ mild to severe backache and strain
§ increased headaches
§ difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
§ increased urination and incontinence
§ bleeding gums
§ pica
§ breast pain and discharge
§ swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain
§ difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
§ inability to take regular medications
§ shortness of breath
§ higher blood pressure
§ hair loss
§ tendency to anemia
§ curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
§ infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
(pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
§ extreme pain on delivery
§ hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
§ continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:
§ stretch marks (worse in younger women)
§ loose skin
§ permanent weight gain or redistribution
§ abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
§ pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life)
§ changes to breasts
§ varicose veins
§ scarring from episiotomy or c-section
§ other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
§ increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
§ loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
Occasional complications and side effects:
§ complications of episiotomy
§ spousal/partner abuse
§ hyperemesis gravidarum
§ temporary and permanent injury to back
§severe scarring requiring later surgery
(especially after additional pregnancies)
§ dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
§ pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
§ eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
§ gestational diabetes
§ placenta previa
§ anemia (which can be life-threatening)
§ thrombocytopenic purpura
§ severe cramping
§ embolism (blood clots)
§ medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
§ diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
§ mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
§ serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
§ hormonal imbalance
§ ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
§ broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
§ hemorrhage and numerous other complications of delivery
§ refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
§ aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
§ severe post-partum depression and psychosis
§ research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
§ research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
§ research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease
More permanent side effects:
§ future infertility
§ permanent disability
§ death.
When the abortion on demand Guttmacher institute asks women why they abort, the answers aren't magnesium toxicity, brainstem infarction, broken bones, gestational diabetes, or other medical reasons. Most women cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals; they cannot afford a child; having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents; they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with the sperm donor; reasons like that. As I said, Some abortions are 'healthcare' related. It's a verbal trick to refer to abortion as a 'healthcare decision' when in fact most aren't related at all to health.
Also as I said, women can have as many abortions, whenever, for whatever reasons she wants as far as I'm concerned. 1st, 4th, 8th month, her body, her choice.
Most abortionists are men so I guess most women who go get an abortion don't care then. Are you saying no man should be involved in women's issues? That would be hard to do.
Abortionists?
You mean OB/GYNs?
Don't you get an annual pap smear done?
You may be seeing one of your hated "abortionists" if you are doing so.
If not, you risk the chance of undetected cervical(or other types of) cancer.
If you want to chance it, who am I to make that choice for you?
When the abortion on demand Guttmacher institute asks women why they abort, the answers aren't magnesium toxicity, brainstem infarction, broken bones, gestational diabetes, or other medical reasons. Most women cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals; they cannot afford a child; having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents; they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with the sperm donor; reasons like that. As I said, Some abortions are 'healthcare' related. It's a verbal trick to refer to abortion as a 'healthcare decision' when in fact most aren't related at all to health.
Also as I said, women can have as many abortions, whenever, for whatever reasons she wants as far as I'm concerned. 1st, 4th, 8th month, her body, her choice.
I get what you were saying. The point I was trying to make was that with all those health effects associated with pregnancy and childbirth, do we really want politicians to be deciding if a woman must follow through with a pregnancy and childbirth?
Looking at it that way, the decision to have an abortion or follow through with a pregnancy is definitely a healthcare decision that some politicians (and church leaders) want to make for women.
Does it bother you ladies out there to have a largely male-dominated government making decisions about abortion?
Yes.
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Make no mistake about it... i don't like abortion. It does not sit well with me. That being said, if i was in government, I don't think i would feel comfortable making that decision-- not being a woman, not knowing what it is like to worry about being raped, not having to bear the burden of carrying a child to birth. I would appoint a group of female advisers, some pro-life and some pro-choice, to discuss all perspectives in detail.
Or you could just let the women themselves--the ones who have to live with the result of whatever reproductive choices they make--be free to make them taking their own individual situations in account. No big government needed!
This dated feminist eccentric idea about "male-dominated" - is an insult on males in general....Hate to break it to you...men are maternal also. - The "rape" factor is rare and over played...the "burden" of carrying a child- good men share that burden...this sexism that separates males from females when it comes to reproduction is and always was a disgrace- woman are more than vessels - and men are more than sperm ejectors into those vessels...When is humanity going to grow up and stop practicing this sexual racism..that the sexes are now pitted against each other as if it were a race war...as if men were an enemy...most men make wonderful mothers. This "domintion" thing over woman is a myth...It is a hatred instilled in young woman that men are nothing but a walking penis..That would be like saying that woman are nothing but a vagina with legs..
This whole issue is so discouraging..that fact that human evolution is running in reverse...If apes could talk they would be laughing at us.
The question was:""""Does it bother you ladies out there to have a largely male-dominated government making decisions about abortion? """
Now pay attention.
When a woman goes to a doctor to have an abortion SHE has already made the decision.
OK so far? Following along?
So, she has ALREADY made the decision and the sex of the doctor is not relevent.
The doctor, whether male or female, did NOT make her decision.
Now, go back to the question and think it over.
Then ask yourself how many of YOUR decisions affecting the rest of your life do YOU want government to make.....
You better get use to the government making ALL your health decisions with Obamacare. Whenever you go to the doctor he or she first has to check with a politician to see if they can do the procedure on you that will save your life. It will depend on what group you land in if it is worth saving your life or letting you die. Hope you like the new system.
And every Walgreen's and Walmart would have a free abortion clinic.
You're right, it's all about male dominance and control of women....NOT abortion.
There are more males out there that are forcing women to get an abortion---who wants to pay child support for a one night stand anyway? Even when marriage is involved women are beat and threatened if they don't get the abortion. But some women actually support those kind of men and think highly of them.
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