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Old 09-25-2012, 03:53 PM
 
Location: NoVA
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How would you know if they're concealed? Cite?
Eric Holder says so. He pats himself on the back all the time over the gun population throughout central and south America.
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Old 09-25-2012, 03:54 PM
 
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How would you know if they're concealed? Cite?
Well, they're not always concealed---especially if you're ou the more rural areas and towns. Lots of "private" security and storeworkers will have guns visible in more urban areas. I spoke to people who said many bus drivers carry guns these days. I'm just pointing out that Honduras seemed to have much more guns around then in other countries I've travelled through in Central America. It's relatively common from the several times I travelled through there and the people I've spoken to about the prevalence and easy availbility of firearms when I was there. That's just what I've taken away from my travels there and what others who've lived there have said... It's a very violent country. Maybe you didn't get that impression during your trips to Honduras.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, MD
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That place already is the libertarian fantasy: those with the most guns make the most $
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:59 PM
 
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Is the founding father of this city perchance named Jim Jones II?
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Sounds like a serious effort. A lot of Libertarians I know seem to have given up on the US. Can't really say that I blame them. It's been 32 years now since Reagan was elected and we can't even get a no-brainer step like the elimination of the National Endowment for the Arts.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:11 PM
 
Location: NC
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If you have property tax, and if you are forced to employ a set number of Hondurans, it's not very free.

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If it's in Honduras the libertarians better bring a lot of guns... That country is the worst place in Central America when it comes to crime. It actually might have the highest murder rate in the entire world. San Pedro Sula was one of the worst cities I've ever seen. My bus from Tela to San Pedro Sula was stopped when they had to wait to clear a dead body from the highway.

Good luck, though!
Libertarians have guns. Plenty of them.

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"...welcoming to those with a minimum threshold of skills or capital..."

In other words, no poor or uneducated need apply. This new Shining City on a Hill won't have to deal with those pesky little people. :roll eyes:
You feel sad that you are not able to fill up the new place with your liberal parasitic moochers with their hats out, begging for handouts?

and FYI to all:

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Old 09-25-2012, 09:44 PM
 
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Is the founding father of this city perchance named Jim Jones II?

Nice try. Jim Jones was a socialist.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:09 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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If you have property tax
land tax is the least offensive of taxes. places that top heritage foundation economic freedom list use it as primary source of income. maybe not ideal, but vastly superior to tax on production or consumption or income IMO.
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:39 PM
 
Location: NC
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land tax is the least offensive of taxes. places that top heritage foundation economic freedom list use it as primary source of income. maybe not ideal, but vastly superior to tax on production or consumption or income IMO.
BS. I shouldn't have to force to shell out money just for owning my own property. It may not be as egregious as the income tax, but still is bad. It's one of those taxes which is a double whammy - it goes to fund public education which, if I don't have kids, I shouldn't be forced to fund, and which in turn increases the house values on paper, which in turn results in higher property taxation. Never ending cycle. A consumption tax is only if you consume something and I can control my consumption to lower my tax burden, but the property tax is a permanent noose around the neck.

OK, back on topic.
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Old 09-25-2012, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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The particular form of taxation is far less important than keeping gov't powers and functions limited, so that there is no reason/excuse for ever-increasing taxes of any kind. Whichever kind of tax is chosen is going to have drawbacks. There are some serious drawbacks with consumption taxes too. Pick your poison. But as long as gov't powers were strictly limited I wouldn't care that much which form of tax was chosen.
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