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Old 09-27-2012, 04:41 PM
 
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Here's the truth:

You have been lied to your whole life.
The Drug War is a failure.
The negative consequences of limited responsible recreational use, apart from the legal issues, is minimal.
Children should not have access to drugs. They do now. We need another approach than the one we are using.
Drug testing does not prevent drug use. Drug testing does not measure impairment.
Successful people use drugs for recreational purposes, so do the less successful. It is not a factor.
Equating all drug use with abuse is the same as saying all drinkers are drunks.
Withdrawal symptoms from marijuana use, if noticed at all, are similar to those when quitting caffeine.
No one would advocate driving, going to work, or operating machinery while under the influence.

People do not want to know the truth because it upsets the status quo, which is where they are comfortable.

Your government does not want you to know the truth because they want to keep you powerless, in constant fear, and controllable. The unknown is very scary to them.

The police dept does not want to admit the truth because it would affect their DEA grants, ability to seize your property, kill your dog, and if the truth were known, negatively impact staffing and pensions.

Can you handle the truth?
Here's the truth right here.

And it might be hard to swallow.

CARDIOVASCULAR CONSEQUENCES OF MARIJUANA USE

http://www.legalizebc.ca/sites/defau...col%202002.pdf
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:43 PM
 
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It's smoke going into your lungs. What idiot actually thought it was safe?
I thought it was safe because you got people like the people on here, including doctors, saying that there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

But it's very rare that they've actually researched enough to know otherwise.

So you go about your life, excercising and acting like everything is normal until it's too late.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Texas
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It's smoke going into your lungs. What idiot actually thought it was safe?
Vaporizer
Vaporization is an alternative to burning (smoking) that avoids the production of irritating toxic and carcinogenic by-products by heating the material so its active compounds boil off into a vapor. No combustion occurs, so no smoke or taste of smoke is present. Vapor ideally contains virtually zero particulate matter or tar, and significantly lower concentrations of noxious gases such as carbon monoxide.

With little to no smoke produced and cooler temperatures, less material is required to achieve a given level of effect. Hence, the irritating and harmful effects of smoking are reduced, as is secondhand smoke.
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Old 09-27-2012, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's smoke going into your lungs. What idiot actually thought it was safe?

It isn't about being "safe" but relative danger, some here are trying to imply if you smoke marijuana your heart is going to explode and you are going to die.

Too much alcohol is bad.
Too much sugar is bad.
Too much salt is bad.
Too many carbs is bad.
Even too much WATER can kill you.

I would have to read these "studies" and see relative level of use and general health of the user, something tells me these "victims" are HEAVY users and are unhealthy to begin with.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Here's the truth right here.

And it might be hard to swallow.

CARDIOVASCULAR CONSEQUENCES OF MARIJUANA USE

http://www.legalizebc.ca/sites/defau...col%202002.pdf

Did you read the conclusion at the top of the page? Did you read ANY of the article(I have).

It doesn't come to the same conclusion you seem to.

Lots of cans and ifs, and that doesn't work too well with medical research.
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Old 09-27-2012, 07:21 PM
 
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:09 PM
 
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Default Not all smoke is the same

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It's smoke going into your lungs. What idiot actually thought it was safe?
I did a lengthy post on differences between tobacco & marijuana. Is everything swallowed the same? Is everything inhaled the same?

Cannabis contains several cannabinoids known to fight cancer, THC, CBD & CBN, none of which are in the smoke from tobacco. Tobacco contains the poison nicotine, which is not in cannabis.

Tobacco (nicotine) paralyzes the lung cleaners, which is why tobacco users cough mostly after some time without smoking. Cannabis does not paralyze the lung cleaners & is an expectorant, so users can cough while using & clear the lungs.

You can find over 1,000 "marijuana" studies by searching for Granny Storm Crow's list. Also, Wikipedia is very good as writers must cite sources, or they may be removed. In 1976, Gerald Ford approved giving the sole right to decide who gets MJ research money (taxpayer money) to Big Pharma. Of course they wouldn't say anything that competed with their products was good, so researchers could only get money if they said
they wanted to find out something bad about it. Many of the studies proved nothing and ended with the self-serving "more research is needed". Some studies wrote things that were only opinions or theories.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:14 PM
 
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Sorry to be a buzz killer, but would you mind submitting some scientific documentaton to support this, or should I dismiss you as someone who is talking out of his *** hole?
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:37 PM
 
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I did a lengthy post on differences between tobacco & marijuana. Is everything swallowed the same? Is everything inhaled the same?

Cannabis contains several cannabinoids known to fight cancer, THC, CBD & CBN, none of which are in the smoke from tobacco. Tobacco contains the poison nicotine, which is not in cannabis.

Tobacco (nicotine) paralyzes the lung cleaners, which is why tobacco users cough mostly after some time without smoking. Cannabis does not paralyze the lung cleaners & is an expectorant, so users can cough while using & clear the lungs.

You can find over 1,000 "marijuana" studies by searching for Granny Storm Crow's list. Also, Wikipedia is very good as writers must cite sources, or they may be removed. In 1976, Gerald Ford approved giving the sole right to decide who gets MJ research money (taxpayer money) to Big Pharma. Of course they wouldn't say anything that competed with their products was good, so researchers could only get money if they said
they wanted to find out something bad about it. Many of the studies proved nothing and ended with the self-serving "more research is needed". Some studies wrote things that were only opinions or theories.
Actually the DEA and the FDA are responsible for most of the government funding of marijuana research in the USA. The DEA also must approve any private research done in the USA on marijuana. Some researchers have waited as long as 10 years, only to be told NO by the DEA. They are not interested in good science, only prohibition.

The FDA lost my confidence when they said that Americans should not buy their perscriptions in Canada because they might not be safe. This told me that the FDA was in the pocket of big pharma USA since Canadian drugs often come from the same manufacterurs in both countries. Canada also has their own government agency like the FDA. Their drugs are not only as safe as ours, they are often cheaper.

The DEA has always been a prohibition tool for the government.

I agree with the rest of your comments.
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Old 09-27-2012, 09:05 PM
 
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Meh, liquor is dangerous and cigs are dangerous. I have a radical idea... Why not put a warning on the package and then let adults decide for themselves? You know, get the government out of the way and let the free market work?
I second that !
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