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Old 09-26-2012, 02:09 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Gee, what an absurd, sick situation Yet another reason to get an abortion as soon as a pregnancy is detected after a rape...
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: California
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She and her family did not decide to seek child support from the man. The judge required the rapist to pay child support as part of his probationary requirements. The criminal court judge. If the family wanted child support, that would have been a decision issued by a probate judge or a family court judge. The family doesn't want anything to do with this man. The rapist was 20 years old, the girl was 14. The rapist was dating the girl's older sister.
I read he was dating the older sister of a friend but whatever.

This whole thing is f'ed up, even more so if she had sex willingly or put the moves on him (as many young girls are prone to do with slightly older guys). Since I don't know that's all I'm going to say about that.

The law is the law, true, and the boy is acting within the law as well. It's a double edged sword.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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Do you have any idea how vile and disgusting and painful it can be to force a woman to permanently accept her RAPIST into her daily life and essentially hand over the child to him??

The men have used this as a bargaining chip against prison as well - you don't press charges against me, I won't keep demanding to have access to the kid.

If Republicans want raped women to bear their children for the goodness of humanity, they could at least have he humanity not to allow the rapist to torment the victim on an ongoing basis. Last I checked, 31 states allow it.

And then Republicans wonder how it is that the become portrayed as having a "war against women."

A rapist should NEVER have access to the child they fathered OR the woman they raped. They should have their pecker smashed with a rock and be thrown into prison.
What 31 states is it, do you know?
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:32 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That would be forcing the mother, the victim of a crime, to have to be in contact with her rapist. He should have zero rights and the decision should be left up to the child when adulthood is reached.

So, he pays no child support?
It does not sound like he, or the courts can deny him fatherhood.


On the Birth Certificate, who is listed as the father?
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:36 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This very disturbing, sexist and SICK post is exactly what the Republican Party is striving for today.

Ideals and beliefs such as these will continue to cost the GOP elections in the future.

It is especially more humorous when the GOP whine about how there is no war on women and it is all made up. Even funnier is how they stand there puzzled that Obama has the female voters by a HUGE margin.

Open your eyes and watch your end, GOP. I know I will savor every microsecond.

You assume a lot.
How am I associated with the political establishment? Hell, I voted for Bill Clinton the first time around. I voted for Bush his first time out. Everyone says I wasted my vote this time though, as I like neither of the guys they picked for us.
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Old 09-26-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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So, he pays no child support?
It does not sound like he, or the courts can deny him fatherhood.


On the Birth Certificate, who is listed as the father?
In nine states, a rapist's rights as a father are revoked at conviction. Other states have paths available for the mother to pursue such revocation.

The reason? Fatherhood is seen as a reward. It's something that men benefit from. A man shouldn't expect to be rewarded for committing a crime. And rape is a crime. This man is a criminal.

The courts can certainly deny him fatherhood, by the way. He's a criminal and a sex offender. There are two strikes against him right at the outset.
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Old 09-26-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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So, he pays no child support?
It does not sound like he, or the courts can deny him fatherhood.


On the Birth Certificate, who is listed as the father?
Most likely no one was listed as the father, that does happen sometimes..
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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A Massachusetts man is seeking visitation rights to the child he fathered after raping a 14-year-old girl, setting the stage for a legal battle in the Bay State.
If it was actual rape, I would say no.

If it was "statutory" rape based only on her age, I would say yes.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:18 PM
 
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Wow look at all the idiotic comments in this thread from people who didn't read the article.
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Old 09-26-2012, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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If she didn't want it as a reminder, adoption, or abortion, was an option. The kid is here and fathers have rights to their children, too. No matter how they came to be.

You don't know the entire story, nor do I. You have read an opinion piece.

No need to get personal. We just have a different view of the fathers role, here.
If the highlighted were true, then how could the mother give the child up for adoption without the consent of the father?
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