Tax the rich? Economics explained in beer (generation, high school, politician)

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by ChrisFromChicago

Either believe what you want to believe. .regardless of evidence, or read the link.

You have a link from the Princeton University Wisconsin migration study? Good. Post it.

[ChrisFromChicago]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

You have a link from the Princeton University Wisconsin migration study? Good. Post it.

No you post the hendersons rally poll on fast eating

Dude - the discussion was flight and taxes and the impact. Guess what, i posted the link to the NPR planet money that featured two studies and over 8 years. . .

Multiple states (not just one).

[ovcatto]

Originally Posted by ObserverNY

THE TAX SYSTEM EXPLAINED IN BEER

I know how you folks are tied to analogies, but let's try for a change an analogy that actually is reflective of how a society works.

We have a tribe of hunter gathers numbering 30 individuals.

There are 15 males and 15 females.

5 of the males are in their prime, 5 are old or infirmed, 5 are children. The females have they same distribution.

Of the 5 males in their prime, 3 are great hunters and warriors, 1 is a lousy hunter and 1 isn't good for much good for anything other than other than making babies. The 5 women do all of the gathering for the tribe.

Due to a drought the women have nothing to gather and the tribe is totally dependent upon the 3 hunters to gather obtain food for the tribe.

On a hunting trip, i hunter kills 10 animals, a second kills 3 and another kills 2 enough to feed the tribe for a week.

Is it your argument that it is unfair for the most successful hunter to contribute more to the tribe than the others?

Should the 5 old and infirmed not be cared for?

The women and children should go without?

And keep on thing in mind, even as great as the greatest hunter is he is defenseless against large predators without the others in the tribe contributing to the mutual defense when necessary?

[gwynedd1]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

You raise the same argument of those who are against farm and corporate subsidies, etc. I say, fine. End the subsidies. Who do you think higher prices on food and goods will hurt the most?

That is the same population segment that benefits the most from the farm and corporate subsidies.

Oh heck yes that should be ended. I am a forager myself because quite frankly wild food is just that much better. One person who was poor became a pioneer in making use of the available resources and learned how to make do with such things. His name was Euell Gibbons. Today's food stamp society would never produce such a person. Poor people don't pick fruit. I pick apples near a PADS shelter for the homeless in probably one of the most ridiculous set of circumstances ever to have existed in the history of humanity. They don't pick them at all. They turn their noses . They even cut some branches this year because the fruit was making the walk dirty. What sort of insane society do I live in? The welfare entitlement state is destructive on all levels.

[Savoir Faire]

The richest guys pay $7 out of a $10 bill, but write it off as a business expense, get reimbursed $50 courtesy of tax payers, and complain that they had to pay most of the bill.

[irishvanguard]

Why is everyone overlooking the fact that the poorest 4 are actually GETTING PAID in our system to drink their beer? (All they pay for is their pretzels and peanuts --S.S. & Medicare--assuming that they work at all!)

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by ChrisFromChicago

No

That's what I thought.

Wisconsin's all out welfare giveaway is a parasite magnet and higher income earners are leaving the state because they're tired of supporting the ever-growing leech class. So says Princeton University's report on factors affecting state migration.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by gwynedd1

Oh heck yes that should be ended. I am a forager myself because quite frankly wild food is just that much better. One person who was poor became a pioneer in making use of the available resources and learned how to make do with such things. His name was Euell Gibbons. Today's food stamp society would never produce such a person. Poor people don't pick fruit. I pick apples near a PADS shelter for the homeless in probably one of the most ridiculous set of circumstances ever to have existed in the history of humanity. They don't pick them at all. They turn their noses . They even cut some branches this year because the fruit was making the walk dirty. What sort of insane society do I live in? The welfare entitlement state is destructive on all levels.

I'm all for ending subsidies. I just want liberals to understand exactly who would be hurt the most by doing so.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by irishvanguard

Why is everyone overlooking the fact that the poorest 4 are actually GETTING PAID in our system to drink their beer?

Because liberals are either ignorant or dishonest.

[Greg_IA]

Originally Posted by Randomstudent

In reality the 10th guy pays a substantially lower rate then the 9th guy because the 9th guy is paying payroll and ordinary income rates and the 10th guy is paying LTCG and dividend rates.

So you want to lower the tax rate on earned income?