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Old 09-27-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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~WHether or not we are christian at the roots has nothing to do with the founding of our rather secular government and the fact that our society nowadays is secular.

Obama stated nothing wrong in his statement, as he says basically we should condem anyone who disrespects religion like that one youtube video does.
Our beliefs & core values are Christian.

Many non Christians can't get over that fact & want to attempt to ban some traditions that made us great.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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The bible is clear as black & white.

You are looking for grey areas which are not there.
So you do you also follow things like

"Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee" (Leviticus 19:19).

"Stone disobedient children" (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

"The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God" (Deuteronomy 22:5)

Leviticus 11:7–8 (ESV)
7 And the pig, because it parts the hoof and is cloven-footed but does not chew the cud, is unclean to you. 8 You shall not eat any of their flesh, and you shall not touch their carcasses; they are unclean to you.

Leviticus 19:27 states:
Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 states:
When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets

Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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The bible is clear as black & white.

You are looking for grey areas which are not there.
hahahahah, if the Bible was as clear as black & white then why are there so many arguments over its meaning? Your interpretation may be black and white to you, but other people see things differently.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:35 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Our beliefs & core values are Christian.

Many non Christians can't get over that fact & want to attempt to ban some traditions that made us great.
What traditions are being banned that make us great?

There is no national religion. Period.

We were not founded as a Christian nation. Period.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:56 PM
 
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The bible is clear as black & white.

You are looking for grey areas which are not there.
The Taliban say the same thing of the Q'ran.

The Bible is full of contradictions. It's widely open to interpretation. It's also been translated countless times, each translation containing variances. Now, if you read ancient Greek, Latin, Hebrew, and Aramaic, and are familiar with the history and cultures of the various people contemporaneous with Jesus Christ, and it's those ancient texts you rely on, well, that's different. But I don't think you actually have that kind of expertise.
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Our beliefs & core values are Christian.
Our beliefs and core values can be attributed to many cultures, not just Christian.

Christianity does not have a monopoly on morality.

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Many non Christians can't get over that fact & want to attempt to ban some traditions that made us great.
Such as?
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:02 PM
 
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Have you fallen off ur meds?


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Old 09-27-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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Default what we have here is failure to communicate


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Old 09-27-2012, 03:26 PM
 
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I'm tired of hearing about how I have to have respect for Islam. I don't. I don't have to have and respect for any religion and I don't. That is the dumbest thing anyone ever came up with. I think you should always have respect for other people and accept that others maybe live differently than you do and according to their religion. I can't have respect for something I think is bad and I have no use for. I can only respect other peoples choices, but that is quite different. I think one of the most respectful things I do is advise religious friends not to get into a religious discussion with me because they matter to me and I don't want to alienate them. If people would keep their religion to themselves none of this would be a problem.
It's not just that progressives want you to be "tolerant" and "open-minded", they also want to prevent you from labeling something as "bad" or "good". They seek to destroy traditional Christian values through cultural relativism. This politically correct atmosphere they have created puts people under fire for calling a culture that doesn't respect women's rights "bad", meanwhile these same "open-minded" progressives will call "conservatives" evil, hateful, and Nazis for choosing life instead of death by vacuum.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:22 PM
 
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On the subject of vacuous... Oh, never mind.
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