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BTW, even worse than being GMO, almost all corn and corn products nowadays also have systemic pesticides in 'em. The pesticide actually becomes a part of the entire plant as it grows, so it affects whatever part the insect, or other organism, takes in (including in humans... where it becomes "cumulative").
Systemic pesticides are also slowly being implicated worldwide in sudden bee die-offs (aka, Colony collapse disorder).
Yes, I read that we had a 30% die off last winter. This is very scary. Other countries are banning the pesticides suspected of causing this, the U.S. is still in denial.
why dont you tell us what ISNT geneticly modified???
those bright red delicious apples you see in the store looking so PERFECT....far from being geneticly minipulated
everything we have and eat has been genticly manipulated in some form or another
This really sounds like the biggest cop out I have ever heard.
There is a pretty clear def of GM, that is how they make them big bucks. While traditional hybrids can have negative consequences they are far less likely to result in the same kind of altered proteins, at a minimum. Frankly, plenty of us would love to know which are GM so we wouldn't buy them. If GM is so great they should be bragging about it and labelling it to high heaven. If people want to eat it let them, but give others the choice to not eat it. Even organics can't be trusted any more.
Yes, I read that we had a 30% die off last winter. This is very scary. Other countries are banning the pesticides suspected of causing this, the U.S. is still in denial.
Very true. The EU has already banned neonicotinoids on a two year trial basis but the big problem is they're relatively persistent compounds (much like PCBs or DDT) which means even if we stopped using them today they'd persist in the environment for decades to come still killing stuff. As usual though the EPA has been captured by the very companies it is supposed to be regulating so sound science is ignored so that companies can continue making profits from substances which are manifestly harmful to human and environmental health.
why dont you tell us what ISNT geneticly modified???
those bright red delicious apples you see in the store looking so PERFECT....far from being geneticly minipulated
everything we have and eat has been genticly manipulated in some form or another
We are talking about what Monsanto is engineering, so that crops don't die after being sprayed with insecticides, because the plant is an insecticide unto itself. You are trying to deflect from the topic at hand.
This really sounds like the biggest cop out I have ever heard.
There is a pretty clear def of GM, that is how they make them big bucks. While traditional hybrids can have negative consequences they are far less likely to result in the same kind of altered proteins, at a minimum. Frankly, plenty of us would love to know which are GM so we wouldn't buy them. If GM is so great they should be bragging about it and labelling it to high heaven. If people want to eat it let them, but give others the choice to not eat it. Even organics can't be trusted any more.
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Originally Posted by claudhopper
We are talking about what Monsanto is engineering, so that crops don't die after being sprayed with insecticides, because the plant is an insecticide unto itself. You are trying to deflect from the topic at hand.
oh please
fact is even rooting and cross polinating geneteicly manipulates the originator
fact is you need a boogyman, so you go after a corporation, because they are so 'evil'
why the discriminsation against monsanto and not the other chemical companies
the chemical in roundup (Glyphosate )is the very same chemical used in the herbisides made by Baier, ortho, etc
why instead of asking the government to ban a potentially dangerous chemical (through the epa, usda, fda ..whatever) are you going after ONE companie...is this a political agenda????
again..you SEEM to be wearing blinders..
I learned about cross polination 50 years ago in school....farmers have been doinf cross polination and grafing for CENTURIES
and its baout what the PEOPLE WANT
grow a tomato plant in your yard..the product is NOT all the same size or color....but people want big round, red tomaoes that all look pristine.....you ONLY get that from manipulating the make up of the plant/fuit/vegi.....go to an old 'red delicious' apple tree and look at the fruit...they are not all the same size of color.....but what WE WANT in the store is all the same..................cant blame a specific company for what the PEOPLE WANT
yes there are 'roundup ready' seeds...meaning they(the plant) will NOT die if the herbicide gets on them...like a 'non ready' seed would.....what is the big deal....and please dont give me the 'cancer and other' line....more people died of cancer well before monsanto even was thought of
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