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Old 10-02-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Obama told Defense Contractors to break the law, and not pass out layoff notices (they are required by law to give 60 days notice) before the election. He tells them that the government will pay for their legal fees (when they are sued).

This is because of automatic budget cuts that go into effect in January because Democrats failed to pass a budget.

Obama has no problem ignoring the law when it works in his favor to do so. But, I thought a President was not above the law?
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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What's this? They used to carry the lowly title of mercenary....now they are all fancied up and called "contractors"...ha..
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:50 PM
 
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Yep, our taxes at work being intended to be used to cover insisted upon illegalities by those that are charged with enforcing the Laws.


35 more days until we fire him.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:53 PM
 
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It IS patently ILLEGAL.

Obama can't decide on his own to GIVE companies taxpayer's money as a BRIBE to break the law.

What's EVEN WORSE is that Obama HIMSELF pushed for this law to be passed and even co-sponsored it!!!

Then again...that's his modus operandi......EVERYTHING Obama says has an expiration date attached to it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Which law are we talking about here? Our company had 7-8 rounds of lay-offs but never issued any notices? Could the people who were laid off sue the company?
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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A president that does not respect the law is a dangerous thing.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Which law are we talking about here? Our company had 7-8 rounds of lay-offs but never issued any notices? Could the people who were laid off sue the company?
The WARN Act but there are lots of loopholes in it and big companies with offices spread out in states can use that to their advantage and not have to issue WARN.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama is dirty.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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The WARN Act but there are lots of loopholes in it and big companies with offices spread out in states can use that to their advantage and not have to issue WARN.
Yes and there is a certain baseline on the number of total employees a company has to have in their employ before they are subject to the WARN act as well.
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Old 10-02-2012, 04:11 PM
 
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From today's paper: WaPO:

Lockheed, BAE say they won't issue layoff warnings:

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...The WH issued a memo late last week that directs contractors to follow the guidance of the Labor Department. In a July letter, the department said the Warn Act does not require contractors facing sequestration to send notices to their workers that they could be let go.

...if sequestration occurs and an agency terminates or changes a contract that results in a plant closing or a mass layoff, the contractors' liability and litigations costs under the Warn Act would be allowable costs.

...The additional guidance offered important new information about the potential timing of DOD actions under sequestration, indicating that DOD anticipates no contract actions on or about 2 January 2013 and that any action to adjust funding levels on contracts as a result of sequestration would likely not occur for several months after 2 Jan, said a Lockheed in a statement."
I'm sure the WARN Act and Labor Dept. guidelines are mired in loopholes and crazy text. Bottom line, the president has not broken the law. If he had, he would be outed. Lockheed Martin is a HUGE company. Do you not think that they lawyered up before making their decision? If they even think they are doing something illegal they are going to check it out first.
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