Obama planning to cut $250 billion from Medicare over 10 years (health care, weapon, insurance)
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Of course he can't because he even knows that's a bald faced lie.
Seniors polled say they like Ryan's Plan better than Obama's.
No politician is going to propose "screwing everyone who was born after that". That would be political suicide.
But let's not lose focus on the topic at hand......
Although Obama attacks Romney/Ryan saying they will make cuts to Medicare, his own plan makes cuts to Medicare.
Simply put: Another example of Obama's hypocrisy.
No you have it all wrong. It isn't hypocracy it is realism and a basic ablity to comprehend numerical data. There are nearly 75 million Americans who get Medicare (serniors and the disabled) and we are costing about 500 billion dollars to the Social Security system. By 2020 there will be more than 125 million of us drawing benefits and if those benefits cost exactly the same as today (A really bad assumption), America's tax payers will be on the hook for nearly a trillion dollars in expenses. If we assume in 2020 the US health care system will grow in cost at the same rate it has for the last two decades them estimates of 1.5 to 2 trillion dollars are not unlikely. Since our workforce will at best be 150 million men and women, then each American will pay nearly $20,000 a year for the finance of healthcare fore someone they don't even know and someone likely to not even be a family member or resident of their community. This is the problem, what do we do? Do we draw that famous red line which says certain medical procedures will not be paid for by public expenditurtes once you pass a certain age threshold like organ transplants or cancer treatment? Do we scrap the present system for a voutcher that might not be worth the paper its printed on or be redemeable for a policy with so many exemptions and fine print it may also be worthless if you get sick or do we start that great American game of whining and blaming the sick , young, disabled or seniors?
Why is paying for Medicare considered to be "screwing over young people," but paying for Medicaid isn't?
I never said it wasnt.
But medicaid is different because it isnt drawing a line and changing the rules for younger people. However, i dont know where you get the idea that im a supporter of medicaid.
Who would be affected by Ryan's Medicare plan?
Under Ryan's plan, everyone who is eligible for Medicare now, or is within 10 years of eligibility, will be allowed to stay remain in the current program. The plan would go into effect for everyone under age 55.
For those who become eligible after 2023, Ryan's plan would make two major changes:
The age of eligibility for Medicare would increase by two months every year until it reached 67 in 2033.
Medicare beneficiaries would get voucher payments to buy private insurance plans.
Under Ryan's plans, voucher payments increased based on changes in the consumer-price-index, which accounts for general inflation, rather than healthcare inflation, which is higher. What that means is that, over time, seniors would end up paying more out of pocket for healthcare.
Are you completely unaware that the premiums seniors pay for Medicare increase regularly? Over time, seniors already end up paying more out of pocket for healthcare.
sure, here's a link, if you're too lazy to look up the plan's details yourself.
it's not really a secret. it's converting Medicare to a voucher plan. do you think today's seniors would accept a voucher plan? Hell no. They know which one is better.
The plan is to sneak this under the radar. Young people aren't quite as interested in the Medicare debate, so the GOP figures they can screw with younger voters without facing any consequences.
Just as I thought. You don't quote the Ryan plan and resort to insults but. rely on some else's "opinion". What's the matter, you can't think for yourself? If you think that makes feel better go at it.
Are YOU stupid enough to believe that Medicare cost will NOT go up if left untouched?
Your ignorance of the facts only shows you don't know what you are talking about.
Those who receive Medicaid benefits do not contribute even one thin dime, while seniors have paid Medicare taxes for YEARS.
If anything, MEDICAID is "screwing over the young people" who are forced to pay for it but are far less likely to receive Medicaid benefits than they are to enroll in Medicare over the span of their lives.
Are you completely unaware that the premiums seniors pay for Medicare increase regularly? Over time, seniors already end up paying more out of pocket for healthcare.
Those premiums are high relative to seniors incomes, but totally insignificant when compared to medicares total cost.
Those premiums are high relative to seniors incomes, but totally insignificant when compared to medicares total cost.
The fact remains that seniors already do pay more out of pocket for health care over time, which was your objection to Ryan's plan.
And you should be even MORE upset with the Medicaid program. Medicaid recipients rack up HUGE costs and are not required to pay even one thin dime in tax dollars or premiums to pay for it.
$509,000,000,000 spent on Medicare. Premiums are charged. Eligible recipients (other than Medicaid enrollees) must have paid Medicare tax on ALL earned income for for at least 10 years (enrollee and/or spouse) http://www.kff.org/medicare/upload/7305-05.pdf
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