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If I was unhappy with my sexual orientation, and I felt as if it didn't suit me, and there was therapy available I would likely seek it. Why be miserable if you believe that your sexual orientation is faulty?
And there's nothing stopping anyone in California from doing that. They just have to be over 18.
This law merely prevents parents from forcing their underage children to undergo religious brainwashing until they (the children) are old enough to decide for themselves.
Nope, I go by facts and experience, not the ramblings of one guy on the internet who clearly has internalized homophobia and an agenda to ensure this therapy ban is stopped.
And there's nothing stopping anyone in California from doing that. They just have to be over 18.
This law merely prevents parents from forcing their underage children to undergo religious brainwashing until they (the children) are old enough to decide for themselves.
A child doesn't have a strict sexual orientation.
I don't think it's harmful to give a child therapy if they need it.
They give gender confused children therapy don't they? As a matter of fact, they encourage gender confused children to identify with the gender they PREFER.
What's wrong with this therapy? If the child does not identify with their sexual orientation, what's wrong with therapy to be available for them at a young age before they're able to sexually experiment with the same sex, and solidify their sexual orientation, or make them candidates for suicide because they don't want to be homosexual.
No, being gay is a natural variant of human/animal sexuality. It doesn't meet any criteria for "fetish".
I don't see your point.
Its natural to have a fetish too, many do.
I like women with strong foreign accents (to the degree that I have never seriously dated anyone without one) no logical reason to it, no reproductive advantage, but I do, its a fetish. And I'm sure a good psychologist could alter that if I wanted him to for whatever reason.
I don't see your point.
Its natural to have a fetish too, many do.
I like women with strong foreign accents (to the degree that I have never seriously dated anyone without one) no logical reason to it, no reproductive advantage, but I do, its a fetish. And I'm sure a good psychologist could alter that if I wanted him to for whatever reason.
Homosexuality is not a fetish, so it's irrelevant to the discussion.
If a child doesn't have a strict sexual orientation, why would they need therapy to change it?
if they exhibit abnormal sexual behavior and they recognize it in themselves and it causes them distress - i'm talking teens not 6 year olds... what's wrong with therapy being available for them.
So you support the State allowing any type of "medical" treatment, no matter how dangerous? Should we encourage more Dr. Kevorkian's to have free reign to euthanize people with no regulation?
Its not up to the state to tell us what we can put our bodies through. I don't belong to anyone,they don't own me I am not a slave or a piece of property. If I choose to go through something that should be up to me.Yes if people want to end their lives they should be allowed to I see nothing wrong with that. It is their life so let them be.I guess you support cradle to grave government intervention in our lives obviously you do since we can't even choose to die with dignity if we want according to you.
Its not up to the state to tell us what we can put our bodies through. I don't belong to anyone,they don't own me I am not a slave or a piece of property. If I choose to go through something that should be up to me.Yes if people want to end their lives they should be allowed to I see nothing wrong with that. It is their life so let them be.I guess you support cradle to grave government intervention in our lives obviously you do since we can't even choose to die with dignity if we want according to you.
Perhaps you don't understand the issue. This isn't about ADULTS. If adults want to waste their money and subject themselves to unproven, demonstrably ineffective psychological torture and quack therapies, they are still free to do so.
This is preventing child abuse, occasioned against children and teenagers by ignorant parents and exploitative "therapists" with a horrid track record, which many who have gone through the program describe as traumatic and scarring.
I knew a guy in grad school whose parents sent him to a "therapy" as a teen. Aversion therapy/electricity to the testicles was one of the outdated modes used against him. (Probably by some sociopathic, religiously conflicted perv who got his jollies off while doing it).
People who do such things to young people need to be shot on site.
Children are under their parents direction and control until they hit 18 years old it is of no right for the state to say a parent can't try to help their child if they think its in their best interest. Obviously it works if someone it worked on is now suing the state for sticking its nose where it doesn't belong. Things like you stated the electricity that is child abuse and should be treated as such but I don't believe outlawing the entire thing is going to fix it,therapists will just call it something else and continue doing so...it worked for that 1 person so I leave it alone...teenagers who don't want to do this but are forced is just like being grounded because you misbehaved they don't want to do it but they do and will because until they are an adult they have no choice.I don't think MOST parents would even do this for their children I think regular therapy would be as far as it goes.
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