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One of the dumbest comments I have read in a long time. So why do they have winterblend in the first place if it causes cancer?
Winter Oxygenated Fuel :
Oxygenates are fuel additives that contain oxygen. Oxygenates can enhance fuel combustion and thereby reduce exhaust emissions. Some oxygenates also boost gasoline octane.
The Clean Air Act requires use of oxygenated gasoline in areas where winter time carbon monoxide levels exceed federal air quality standards. Without oxygenated gasoline, carbon monoxide emissions from gasoline-fueled vehicles tend to increase in cold weather.
source :EPA
what do they oxygenate it with...MTBE
what does the EPA say about MTBE...is causes cancer in lab rats......
There’s a widespread problem in this country of MTBE contamination. It takes very little contamination to cause a problem, and it’s expensive and difficult to clean up.
MTBE is dissolves very easily in water, much more so than the other hazardous chemicals in gasoline: benzene, toluene, ethyl-benzene and xylene (BTEX). When MTBE comes in contact with water, it quickly dissolves and flows along with the water. And where the BTEX ingredients of gasoline will tend to stick to soil and stay put, MTBE doesn’t. It will flow right through the soil and search out water. This means that even a small spill of MTBE-containing gasoline can contaminate a nearby well. Because of its unique characteristics, MTBE contamination can be found wherever gasoline containing MTBE is stored.
To make matters worse, you can’t simply wait for MTBE to biodegrade into harmless substances. MTBE generally doesn’t biodegrade in the natural environment like the BTEX ingredients will. Instead of getting better over time, MTBE will just keep spreading, contaminating larger supplies of water.
And it’s not easy to clean up. Because it dissolves so completely in water, it is much harder and more expensive to get back out of groundwater than the BTEX chemicals. The oil companies’ own estimates say that adding MTBE to gasoline makes it five times more expensive to clean up.
But leaving even a little bit in the water can cause a problem for the people who drink it. It takes only a tiny bit of MTBE to give a bad taste and smell to the water. MTBE can make water smell and taste like turpentine. And just a few drops of MTBE are enough to contaminate an Olympic-size pool filled with purified water. That’s enough to make the water undrinkable, but taste and smell are not the only problem. The EPA says that MTBE causes cancer in animals and may cause cancer in humans, too.
Winter Oxygenated Fuel :
The Clean Air Act requires use of oxygenated gasoline in areas where winter time carbon monoxide levels exceed federal air quality standards. Without oxygenated gasoline, carbon monoxide emissions from gasoline-fueled vehicles tend to increase in cold weather.
source :EPA
what do they oxygenate it with...MTBE
what does the EPA say about MTBE...is causes cancer in lab rats......
Yes, very large amounts do. Your comment is still dumb.
MTBE, like most chemicals, has the ability to cause some injury at extremely high dosages. Extensive research indicates that the MTBE doses required to produce illness in laboratory animals are thousands of times greater than those to which humans could conceivably be exposed. Numerous government and world-renowned independent health organizations to date have found no sufficiently compelling reason to classify MTBE as a possible cancer-causing agent for humans:
Quote:
The European Union Risk Assessment on MTBE concluded in December 2000 that MTBE is not a human carcinogen.
The Department of Health & Human Services, National Toxicology Program voted in December 1998 not to list MTBE in its 9th Report on Carcinogens.
The World Health Organization, International Agency for Research on Cancer, determined in November 1998 that MTBE is not classifiable as a human carcinogen.
The National Research Council, in September 1998, concluded that there was little likelihood that humans would contract kidney tumors from exposure to MTBE.//pics3.city-data.com/forum/California’s Science Advisory Borad for Proposition 65, determined in December 1998 that MTBE could not be considered carcinogenic or a developmental or reproductive toxicant.
The Northeast States for Coordinated Air Use Management, in October 1998, determined that RFG with MTBE reduced cancer risk by 12% over the 1995-1999 period and anticipated this reduction to grow to 20% beginning in 2000.
One of the dumbest comments I have read in a long time. So why do they have winterblend in the first place if it causes cancer?
Maybe they figure we're all indoors through the winter and won't be breathing the fumes ... that is, unless you live in southern California where the sun is always shining and it never rains.
you post a link to a GASOLINE company saying MTBE is ok
just like the government saying agent orange is ok
sorry but you beliveing that is just dumb
How about disproving the actual arguments, instead of acting like a coward and refute the source on just who made it. Unlucky for you, they provided sources.
I have some questions for you
Is European Union Risk Assessment a gasoline company?
Is Department of Health & Human Services a gasoline company?
Is World Health Organization a gasoline company?
Is National Research Council a gasoline company?
Is Northeast States for Coordinated Air Use Management a gasoline company?
Just check gasbuddy.com and you'll be amazed how low you can find it. I found the place filled up at yesterday for $3.99 using gasbuddy though today the price seems to be $4.33 for regular unleaded so the price is going up fast.
Winter Oxygenated Fuel :
Oxygenates are fuel additives that contain oxygen. Oxygenates can enhance fuel combustion and thereby reduce exhaust emissions. Some oxygenates also boost gasoline octane.
The Clean Air Act requires use of oxygenated gasoline in areas where winter time carbon monoxide levels exceed federal air quality standards. Without oxygenated gasoline, carbon monoxide emissions from gasoline-fueled vehicles tend to increase in cold weather.
source :EPA
what do they oxygenate it with...MTBE
what does the EPA say about MTBE...is causes cancer in lab rats......
There’s a widespread problem in this country of MTBE contamination. It takes very little contamination to cause a problem, and it’s expensive and difficult to clean up.
MTBE is dissolves very easily in water, much more so than the other hazardous chemicals in gasoline: benzene, toluene, ethyl-benzene and xylene (BTEX). When MTBE comes in contact with water, it quickly dissolves and flows along with the water. And where the BTEX ingredients of gasoline will tend to stick to soil and stay put, MTBE doesn’t. It will flow right through the soil and search out water. This means that even a small spill of MTBE-containing gasoline can contaminate a nearby well. Because of its unique characteristics, MTBE contamination can be found wherever gasoline containing MTBE is stored.
To make matters worse, you can’t simply wait for MTBE to biodegrade into harmless substances. MTBE generally doesn’t biodegrade in the natural environment like the BTEX ingredients will. Instead of getting better over time, MTBE will just keep spreading, contaminating larger supplies of water.
And it’s not easy to clean up. Because it dissolves so completely in water, it is much harder and more expensive to get back out of groundwater than the BTEX chemicals. The oil companies’ own estimates say that adding MTBE to gasoline makes it five times more expensive to clean up.
But leaving even a little bit in the water can cause a problem for the people who drink it. It takes only a tiny bit of MTBE to give a bad taste and smell to the water. MTBE can make water smell and taste like turpentine. And just a few drops of MTBE are enough to contaminate an Olympic-size pool filled with purified water. That’s enough to make the water undrinkable, but taste and smell are not the only problem. The EPA says that MTBE causes cancer in animals and may cause cancer in humans, too.
You're wrong. MTBE has been banned in California for over a decade mainly because it did indeed contaminate lots of ground water.
You're wrong. MTBE has been banned in California for over a decade mainly because it did indeed contaminate lots of ground water.
uhm...not really
1. it finally got fully banned in cali in 2004..they started banning in 1999
and the ban...thats part of the extra costs of gasoline in cali
but its replcement is just as bad...ethenol
ethenol:
Toxic via inhalation, ingestion, skin and eye exposure
Inhalation causes irritation of the nose and throat, with choking and coughing at high
concentrations
Ingestion at low to moderate concentrations causes impaired reaction time, blurred
vision, vomiting and blackouts
Ingestion at high concentrations can cause convulsions, comas and breathing
complications
in industry,
Exposure via breathing ethanol
vapours can cause irritation of the nose
and throat with choking and coughing at
higher concentrations.
Children show adverse effects after being
exposed to lower amounts of ethanol
compared to adults. Ethanol may also
affect the unborn child, causing foetal
alcohol syndrome, which is characterised
by organ abnormalities, lower birth weight,
and behavioural problems. It can also
cause adverse effects on the reproductive
system in males and females and on
fertility.
Ethanol is classified by the International
Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) as
causing cancer in humans
You're wrong. MTBE has been banned in California for over a decade mainly because it did indeed contaminate lots of ground water.
Funny that he didn't even know the laws of California, and thought it was still legal. Now he is on a crusade against it's replacement instead. What he forgets to mention is that either chemical reduces the amount of benzene, a known carcinogen. Which means it actually causes cancer. It also reduces CO2, and CO.
Actually the main reason MTBE it got banned was because it makes water taste funny, and people don't like chemicals in their water. There is no evidence small doses causes cancer.
Last edited by Camlon; 10-09-2012 at 06:16 AM..
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