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Old 10-11-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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They used to be inclusive of all Americans, something all Americans could be proud of, or in the case of the pledge something that we could strive to. Except for the rightwing who didn't like that and wanted an "other" a group that they could demonize and say you're not real Americans, so they changed the motto to "In God we trust" and added "under God" to the pledge of allegience. Before they included everybody, all Americans. Those changes weren't made out of any kind of love for God, they were made to exclude people
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:21 PM
 
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What tripe
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:23 PM
 
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Right Wingers were responsible for In God We Trust on our money?

NAAAAAAAA....not really, but keep on fooling yourself.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:28 PM
 
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Facts:

Representative Louis C. Rabaut of Michigan sponsored a resolution to add the words "under God" to the Pledge in 1953.

Louis Charles Rabaut (December 5, 1886-November 12, 1961) was politician from the U.S. state of Michigan. He was a Democratic congressman representing Michigan's 14th congressional district from 1935 to 1947, and from 1949 to 1961. He is best known for introducing legislation that added the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance.


So a DEMOCRAT added "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance!!
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:31 PM
 
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Right Wingers were responsible for In God We Trust on our money?

NAAAAAAAA....not really, but keep on fooling yourself.
I never said on the money. I said national motto
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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Facts:

Representative Louis C. Rabaut of Michigan sponsored a resolution to add the words "under God" to the Pledge in 1953.

Louis Charles Rabaut (December 5, 1886-November 12, 1961) was politician from the U.S. state of Michigan. He was a Democratic congressman representing Michigan's 14th congressional district from 1935 to 1947, and from 1949 to 1961. He is best known for introducing legislation that added the words "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance.


So a DEMOCRAT added "under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance!!
Those were different Democrats back then. Progressives call them right wingers today.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:36 PM
 
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The national motto "In God We Trust":


The motto was first challenged in Aronow v. United States in 1970, but the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled: "It is quite obvious that the national motto and the slogan on coinage and currency 'In God We Trust' has nothing whatsoever to do with the establishment of religion. Its use is of patriotic or ceremonial character and bears no true resemblance to a governmental sponsorship of a religious exercise."[28] The decision was cited in Elk Grove Unified School District v. Newdow, a 2004 case on the Pledge of Allegiance. These acts of "ceremonial deism" are "protected from Establishment Clause scrutiny chiefly because they have lost through rote repetition any significant religious content."[29] In Zorach v. Clauson (1952), the Supreme Court also held that the nation's "institutions presuppose a Supreme Being" and that government recognition of God does not constitute the establishment of a state church as the Constitution's authors intended to prohibit.[30]
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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Where did In God We Trust originate (it had nothing to do with "right-wingers" and more to do with the Civil War):


Aspirations for the motto arose surrounding the turmoil and heightened religious sentiment that existed during the Civil War. The Reverend M. R. Watkinson, as part of a campaign initiated by eleven northern Protestant Christian denominations in a letter dated November 13, 1861, petitioned the Treasury Department to add a statement recognising "Almighty God in some form in our coins."[7] At least part of the motivation was to declare that God was on the Union side of the Civil War.[8] According to Brian Burrell, the actual wording of the motto was inspired by a Union Civil War unit's company motto.[9][10]
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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For goodness sakes....I'm an Atheist and I don't even have any objections over either one of these things.

It's just TRADITION and hurts NO ONE.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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I see the progs are still majoring in minors. Anything to distract from the miserable failure that is this guy currently sitting in the Oval Office.
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