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You're right plwhit, and you also have to admit, no one was killed in during Watergate. No so with Obama and Ms. Clinton escapades. Minimum of four persons dead, US citizens dead, and absolutely no responsibility taken by anyone in this entire administration They play their normal blame game, it's always someone elses fault.
January 20th, 2013, Inauguration Day, the end of an error.
Lives were certainly destroyed in Watergate.
"Watergate had profound consequences in the United States. There was a long list of convictions and other casualties. For example, the aftermath of Watergate ushered in changes in campaign finance reform and a more aggressive attitude by the media. By the time the 25th anniversary of Watergate occurred in 1997, a vast library of books and films existed."
Btw, specifically WHAT "Obama and Ms. Clinton escapades"? I haven't noticed any "escapades."
As for taking responsibility, it seems to me that Patrick Kennedy and Charlene Lamb have testified as to their responsibility for denying the requests for more security in Tripoli and Benghazi. Nobody asked Secretary of State nor the President for approval of their denial of the requests.
if anyone believes one word from this ******* obama
then you are pathedic
politics are one thing
cover ups and murder are something else!
he should be impeached along with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden
to try and save this son of a ***** is outragous!
There is a good reason why we in this country DO NOT have a military Commander-in-Chief. Haven't you posted that you're a school teacher? You should certainly understand this.
Anyway, he isn't military, he is the elected President of the United States, and unless you can find good reason as a result of this "investigation" to start impeachment proceedings, he can't be removed because of what you all think about the Benghazi attack. And, IMO, it's totally absurd to even suggest that he should resign.
Did you read his post, he said 0bama was the C-in-C, but IF he were a military commander he would have been relived of command, not that he should resign.
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Actually, I think this investigation of this issue and the opinions expressed just reveal the enormous ignorance of most people as to how the government actually works. All the people who are constantly screaming "smaller government" are the very ones who think that the President should be a "God-like" figure and be able to keep every person who works for this country and who work in harms way totally safe.
We said "smaller government" not "stoopider government." One week you libs claim 0bama does not need to be criticized for failing to attend over half of his PDAs, because he is the "most sophisticated consumer of intelligence on the planet," and a few weeks later you don't expect 0bama to even know how dangerous a place for his diplomats Libya is. Even though it was 0bama, who unilaterally bombed Libya, destroyed their military, dissolved their government and killed their president.
Make up your minds, is he a bumbling half-wit, or a freaking liar?
According to Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution, the President of the United States IS Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Therefore he is in fact responsible for the attack in Libya at the Benghazi U.S. Embassy. The buck has to stop some place and this time it is right at Obama's feet. He can continue to deny, but we all know better.
Good bye, Mr. President and thanks for nothing.
You may want to post a link. Judge Judy will want proof.
I learned that the President was Commander In Chief when I was in elementary school.
Wapasha-
"4) And the 0bama admin runs with a story that a protest occurred at the embassy, because of a YouTube video trailer of an unknown movie, for a month?????
So now they are blaming the entire intelligence community? The whistle blowers will not sit back and have the entire world think they are a bunch of incompetent boobs."
Why?
Really why was this done?
Doesn't appear to have any good reason at all.
Maybe thought beneficial to some in Office but not to the US Citizens at all.
Trust is blown in actions like these.
Is there any trust left, or a hope of it?
It has nothing to do with it. People are desperate to find something to smear the White House with, and unfortunately this is all they got. It's not much.
Nope, nothing at all, just four dead Americans, and an administrations that still claims the attacks on Benghazi were over an unknown YouTube video. Either 0bama is a clueless boob, or a liar, which is it? I'm guessing you are sticking with the former, because wherever things go poorly for 0bama, he is suddenly, and always a clueless boob.
According to Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution, the President of the United States IS Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces. Therefore he is in fact responsible for the attack in Libya at the Benghazi U.S. Embassy. The buck has to stop some place and this time it is right at Obama's feet. He can continue to deny, but we all know better.
Good bye, Mr. President and thanks for nothing.
Yes, indeed he is the Commander in Chief. Our Presidents are always civilian Commanders in Chief. That is the distinction I was making to Oldhag.
So are you saying that the Joint Chiefs of Staff are also responsible since they are at the top of the military chain?
The buck has many, many places it can be stopped, starting with those who made the decision to deny the requests for additional security for Tripoli and Benghazi. You mean you don't think the people who were delegated the responsibility to make those decisions deserve credit for the decisions they made?
Why don't you look at the flow chart for the State Department. You will see the various levels of authority and the many different departments WITHIN the State Department purview.
If you follow down the organizational chart on the right hand side you will see a box designated as UNDER SECRETARY FOR MANAGEMENT. That is Ambassador Patrick Kennedy's position/job. He testified at the recent hearing with Charlene Lamb. Apparently he is her highest level boss. Under the box for Kennedy's position, you will see, 4th box down, on left side, a box designated DIPLOMATIC SECURITY AND FOREIGN MISSIONS. Charlene Lamb's title is Deputy Assistant Secretary for International Programs, Bureau of Diplomat Security. Apparently she is a supervisor of a section of the office of Diplomatic Security and Foreign Missions. She should have a boss within that department of Diplomatic Security and Foreign Missions.
There are an awfully lot of people to go through before reaching the Secretary of State personally, and it seems that people somewhere within that complex system somebody or maybe more than one somebody made a very bad judgement call. I don't see how this specific information ever reached Obama. I think your assertion is absurd.
Nope, nothing at all, just four dead Americans, and an administrations that still claims the attacks on Benghazi were over an unknown YouTube video. Either 0bama is a clueless boob, or a liar, which is it? I'm guessing you are sticking with the former, because wherever things go poorly for 0bama, he is suddenly, and always a clueless boob.
Obama is neither. You give a ridiculous "choice" and think you're going to force others to make such a "choice." It's sort of like that have you quit beating your wife question.
Your bias is overcoming your intelligence. I hope those four dead people haunt you into infinity for your use of their deaths in an attempt at political gain.
Wapasha-
"4) And the 0bama admin runs with a story that a protest occurred at the embassy, because of a YouTube video trailer of an unknown movie, for a month?????
So now they are blaming the entire intelligence community? The whistle blowers will not sit back and have the entire world think they are a bunch of incompetent boobs."
Why?
Really why was this done?
Doesn't appear to have any good reason at all.
Maybe thought beneficial to some in Office but not to the US Citizens at all.
Trust is blown in actions like these.
Is there any trust left, or a hope of it?
I'm at a loss too, because the consulate at Benghazi never telephoned Washington to say there were protesters, much less a group of Muslims, mad about a movie. Biden likes to say the "intel community" told him it was a spontaneous movie protest that went badly. WHO in the intel community told him that? The FBI, CIA, NSA, ATF, NASA, the National Action Network? WHO???
Not only, who originally told them the attack was over a movie, but after the first day or so, why did no one in the "intel community" not correct the president and his staff? And Why aren't 0bama and Biden and Hilary mad as hell that they were made out to look like fools for a month???
Apparently, everyone thought Libya was such a peaceful, and tranquil place, where no violence from terrorist groups ever occur, so quite naturally one would assume it was a peaceful protest, by an Internet savvy neighborhood group, who all just happened to surf onto YouTube at the same exact time, and randomly came across the same video trailer.
"Watergate had profound consequences in the United States. There was a long list of convictions and other casualties. For example, the aftermath of Watergate ushered in changes in campaign finance reform and a more aggressive attitude by the media. By the time the 25th anniversary of Watergate occurred in 1997, a vast library of books and films existed."
Btw, specifically WHAT "Obama and Ms. Clinton escapades"? I haven't noticed any "escapades."
As for taking responsibility, it seems to me that Patrick Kennedy and Charlene Lamb have testified as to their responsibility for denying the requests for more security in Tripoli and Benghazi. Nobody asked Secretary of State nor the President for approval of their denial of the requests.
What..you are going all the way back to Watergate here to say "Yeah but, my guy isn't as bad as your guy"
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