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Old 10-16-2012, 05:23 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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You do realize that the coldest part of the just hit the southern hemisphere, right? Much like December isn't the coldest month here, its late January, early February.

Ice won't start melting until a month or so from now.

Climate change is about more then just a one year trend.

And none of this means we shouldn't limit man kinds impact on the planet. Let's face it, humans are dirty, and we screw things up. It doesn't mean we can do anything about climate change, it also doesn't mean we should kill our economy to limit impact. But it doesn't mean you stick your head in the ground. Every person I meet tells me summers are hotter, and winters colder then they remember.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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I've already debunked that cherry picked chart...Pay attention.
No you haven't and your leader agrees that warming has plateaued.

Pay attention.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:21 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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How many more threads on the Antarctic ice do we need? It's quite simple, in some parts of the Antarctic the ice is increasing, in others it is not, and in the Arctic it is decreasing...
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Antarctic ice growing when the winter comes No way!!!!

I remember this being big surprise last year too.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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“The year 2012 continues a long-term contrast between the two hemispheres, with decreasing sea ice coverage in the Arctic and increasing sea ice coverage in the Antarctic,” Parkinson added. “Both hemispheres have considerable inter-annual variability, so that in either hemisphere, next year could have either more or less sea ice than this year. Still, the long-term trends are clear, but not equal: the magnitude of the ice losses in the Arctic considerably exceed the magnitude of the ice gains in the Antarctic.”
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Antarctic ice growing when the winter comes No way!!!!

I remember this being big surprise last year too.
Actually, if you read the info you would know that they measure the ice on the same day every year. You would also know that the ice is bigger now than any time in the history of measurement... ANY TIME.

Your ignorance is no excuse for such a silly post.
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:37 AM
 
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You do realize that the coldest part of the just hit the southern hemisphere, right? Much like December isn't the coldest month here, its late January, early February.

Ice won't start melting until a month or so from now.

Climate change is about more then just a one year trend.

Yes, and that's why they measure the ice on the same day every year. But you would know that if you read the article.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Yes, and that's why they measure the ice on the same day every year. But you would know that if you read the article.
And again, if you read more then one article, you'd know that a year over year change, means squat, nadda, nothing. Its decades or longer.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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Antarctic ice growing when the winter comes No way!!!!

I remember this being big surprise last year too.

Kind of like the Arctic melting in the summer right? Oh wait, that is different though right?
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:44 AM
 
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First of all the Antarctic is just one small part of the globe, and climate change does not effect all areas equally, but as a whole your world is warming up.

No, that is incorrect. We have not warmed for the last 16 years (you deciding to simply get rid of the 97/98 spike to make your claim is devious manipulation of the data). We have warmed in "some" regions, but we have also cooled in others. The problem is, your beloved pseudo-scientists ignore regions where it cools (ie they "adjust" it) and put more weight on where it has warmed (look into the NOAA gridcelling problem).

Though you always focus on one thing and ignore the other. You were going off about single day high records this summer, but then ignored the single day cool records we had recently.
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