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Old 10-21-2012, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, MD
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Not so. I've seen Communism first hand, know people who were forced to live through it, and live under it and die of it, quite brutally.
It's the liberal who has never known anything but the good life of freedom who has no concept of what it is (and doesn't appreciate our hard-won freedoms).

It's not textbook in practice, and if you're trying to fit a perfect definition to a person or situation, it won't work. In its "perfect, ideal, theoretical" state, Communism doesn't work. In reality it is stifling in every respect, mind numbing and demoralizing, and that's barely the tip of the iceberg.
That has nothing to do with anything, as Obama isn't a communist and it's incredibly disrespectful of you to say liberals had nothing to do with winning our freedoms especially as a liberal war hero George McGovern died today. I don't recall Dubya and Romney doing a ton of sacrificing for their country. By any right winger's measure, Ronald Reagan is a communist, as he had higher taxes in his presidency and more restrictive gun laws. As I said before, the righties are too dumb to know what communism actually is and the Democratic party has nothing to do with it.
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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First explain what he has done that justifies thinking he is a communist or socialist and I'll be glad to explain why you are wrong. The innuendo, hearsay, and dubious projections based on vague claims that you've listed below don't really say much at all.

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Liberals always get defensive when a conservative accuses Obama of being one of those things, but I have not heard a liberal truly explain how Obama is not one. The fact remains that Obama was raised by communists, he had a communist mentor growing up, he is good friends with communists, he was recently endorsed by the Communist Party USA(the first president to be endorsed by CPUSA). He has also repeatedly made communist-type speeches, like "spreading the wealth around" and "you didn't build that." Obama has also been on record before becoming president talking about the need for government ran media and a government ran business and banking sector. 1995 Video of Barack Obama Talking About Collectivism and American History Resurfaces | Video | TheBlaze.com I have even heard liberals say we would be better off losing some rights. I heard one Obama supporter on a Facebook group recently say she wanted to shut down the Tea Party(a 1st Amendment recognized group). Not to mention he is pals with people like Sandra Fluke who wants to see the 1st Amendment right to religious freedom violated to provide free contraception to women.

More sources:

2016: Obama's America | Official Movie Site

Socialism, Marxism, Communism & Obama

If Obama Wins: Democrats Reveal Plans to Fundamentally Transform America Independent Journal Review

Exposed: Obama's socialist network >> Four Winds 10 - Truth Winds

Articles: Obama's Communist Party Endorsement

Roots Of Obama's Rage Trace To Kenyan Father's Communist Hatred For West - Investors.com
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Old 10-21-2012, 08:45 PM
 
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You're citing a right-wing blog?
Really?
Oh so you are saying that these people listed are not in the positions posted because you don't like it is from a right wing blog?

Certainly cannot rely on the Liberal msm to post vetting information that shows obama in a bad light now can we?
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:10 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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That has nothing to do with anything, as Obama isn't a communist and it's incredibly disrespectful of you to say liberals had nothing to do with winning our freedoms especially as a liberal war hero George McGovern died today. I don't recall Dubya and Romney doing a ton of sacrificing for their country. By any right winger's measure, Ronald Reagan is a communist, as he had higher taxes in his presidency and more restrictive gun laws. As I said before, the righties are too dumb to know what communism actually is and the Democratic party has nothing to do with it.
Please read it again for better comprehension. Or, perhaps it won't make any difference.
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Old 10-22-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Oh so you are saying that these people listed are not in the positions posted because you don't like it is from a right wing blog?

Certainly cannot rely on the Liberal msm to post vetting information that shows obama in a bad light now can we?
My point is that anyone can say anything in a blog, they hardly have to vet whats in them.
I really had to explain that to you?
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:12 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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My point is that anyone can say anything in a blog, they hardly have to vet whats in them.
I really had to explain that to you?
Seems that applies more to mainstream liberal media. They have demonstrated massive failure to vet.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:13 PM
 
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Liberals always get defensive when a conservative accuses Obama of being one of those things, but I have not heard a liberal truly explain how Obama is not one. The fact remains that Obama was raised by communists, he had a communist mentor growing up, he is good friends with communists, he was recently endorsed by the Communist Party USA(the first president to be endorsed by CPUSA). He has also repeatedly made communist-type speeches, like "spreading the wealth around" and "you didn't build that." Obama has also been on record before becoming president talking about the need for government ran media and a government ran business and banking sector. 1995 Video of Barack Obama Talking About Collectivism and American History Resurfaces | Video | TheBlaze.com I have even heard liberals say we would be better off losing some rights. I heard one Obama supporter on a Facebook group recently say she wanted to shut down the Tea Party(a 1st Amendment recognized group). Not to mention he is pals with people like Sandra Fluke who wants to see the 1st Amendment right to religious freedom violated to provide free contraception to women.

More sources:

2016: Obama's America | Official Movie Site

Socialism, Marxism, Communism & Obama

If Obama Wins: Democrats Reveal Plans to Fundamentally Transform America Independent Journal Review

Exposed: Obama's socialist network >> Four Winds 10 - Truth Winds

Articles: Obama's Communist Party Endorsement

Roots Of Obama's Rage Trace To Kenyan Father's Communist Hatred For West - Investors.com
If you graduated from high school, you should be ashamed of yourself. You clearly weren't paying one tiny bit of attention at all, for years.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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Seems that applies more to mainstream liberal media. They have demonstrated massive failure to vet.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:17 PM
 
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I want to know how Obama can be a Communist/Marxist and simultaneously a radical Muslim. These two groups hate each other. Its like that Dave Chappelle skit about a Black guy who considers himself a White Nationalist.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:42 AM
 
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That has nothing to do with anything, as Obama isn't a communist and it's incredibly disrespectful of you to say liberals had nothing to do with winning our freedoms especially as a liberal war hero George McGovern died today. I don't recall Dubya and Romney doing a ton of sacrificing for their country. By any right winger's measure, Ronald Reagan is a communist, as he had higher taxes in his presidency and more restrictive gun laws. As I said before, the righties are too dumb to know what communism actually is and the Democratic party has nothing to do with it.
Communism is an economic system where the government owns controls the means of production. That sure seems to be the economic system that Obama believes in. He certainly despises private enterprise.
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