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I support the DP so that it is available, resulting in people caught utterly red-handed being allowed to plea to life-no-parole when facing the DP.
If you do not have the DP on the books, what happens when you catch someone like the Green River Killer? You have zero leverage and you have to go through a trial and then parole hearings for decades blah blah blah. They also do not give closure by coming clean on other victims which is a big plus.
Washington has the death penalty - in fact they are the only state that still has an active gallows to perform executions by hanging - and they have used it within the last 20 years.
Ridgway did not receive the death penalty because Norm Maleng(the King County prosecutor) made the incredibly courageous and correct decision to not seek it in return for a full confession that would avoid a trial.
Ridgway was required to tell everything. If he left anything out - or if he is convicted of a crime outside King County(within the state of Washington) - he will have a date with the needle - or the rope.
A "freaking Libertarian", huh? Good for you. Y'all seem like real sweethearts. Sign me up. I'm an Independent and I didn't realize we had a "side" for pro death. I guess libertarians can jump to the conclusion that they know where someone stands politically too.
I find your view of the death penalty heartless and based on more emotion rather than facts. If I mistook you for being an extreme leftie it is because what you said resembles what Socialists and Communists have implemented throughout history. Which, is that when you are an undesirable person and no longer a benefit to society, you are a drain, have no value, and should be killed for the greater good of society.
I don't know of any socialist democracies that have the death penalty. I have no idea about communist countries like China and Russia. I doubt that you know the difference. Norway, Sweden, to a lesser extent Germany and Canada...all pretty mush socialist democracies...no death penalty. U.S. Liberals/progressives do not believe in the death penalty as a rule. That is a conservative solution.
So it would seem that you have something in common with liberal thought. I knew there was a reason that I did not put you on ignore. There is hope for you.
Death penalty to anyone who violently assaults a child under 13 in any way, whether it's sexual or not.
Death penalty to anyone who violently rapes anyone, including prison rapes.
Thank goodness the Supreme Court has more sense that you.
see Coker v Georgia and Kennedy v. Louisiana, No. 07-343,
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Death penalty to anyone convicted of a violent crime more than once.
So a person is found guilty of assault and battery during a bar fight, gets involved in another resulting in a death sentence? Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
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Death penalty to anyone convicted of a violent crime coupled with a mentall illness or total lack of remorse.
Of all your "suggestions" these two are the most offensive.
In descending order of offensiveness:
Considering that 141 individuals what have been sentenced to die since 1973 only to be later exonerated is it your contention that because a person continues to plead their innocence and as a result show no remorse that not only should they be sentenced to die for murder but for any violent crime. How ludicrous.
As for the mentally ill, and despite Godwin's Law, I can't think of a more Naziesque line of thinking. The reason that we don't execute the mentally ill and should execute the mentally retard is because we reserve the death penalty for those who are cognizant of the crimes they commit.
Please before authoring any new suggestions, think these things through before posting.
I'm not talking about California. I just brought up the measure to show that it's currently a relevant topic.
Notice that not all my examples were in California. It's a nationwide thing. One of the problems with the death penalty is that the appeals process is far too long and costly. And the death itself costs too much.
Just lock these scum up in a room and let them rot. Child molesting psychotics and rapists don't deserve human rights because they're sub-human. Murderers gave up their right to life the moment they stole someone else's.
We spend billions a year policing Marijuana, but what we should really do is legalize it to free up the ~750,000 annual police man-hours dedicated to marijuana arrests to help protect us. That on top of stricter penalties for violent psychopaths would make us 100x safer.
You start a thread promoting the expansion of the DP - but now you are against it?
Thank goodness the Supreme Court has more sense that you.
see Coker v Georgia and Kennedy v. Louisiana, No. 07-343,
So a person is found guilty of assault and battery during a bar fight, gets involved in another resulting in a death sentence? Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
Of all your "suggestions" these two are the most offensive.
In descending order of offensiveness:
Considering that 141 individuals what have been sentenced to die since 1973 only to be later exonerated is it your contention that because a person continues to plead their innocence and as a result show no remorse that not only should they be sentenced to die for murder but for any violent crime. How ludicrous.
As for the mentally ill, and despite Godwin's Law, I can't think of a more Naziesque line of thinking. The reason that we don't execute the mentally ill and should execute the mentally retard is because we reserve the death penalty for those who are cognizant of the crimes they commit.
Please before authoring any new suggestions, think these things through before posting.
That's not a 1st degree murder
Even so, you're still guilty of murder and for not showing any restraint of your violent urges. It's justifiable homicide, but it's still homicide.
And good for you for completely ignoring the main point of the post which was "Child molestation and Rape should be capital offenses".
YOU are the one who wrote this:
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Death penalty to anyone convicted of a violent crimemore than once. Death penalty to anyone convicted of a violent crime coupled with a mentall illness or total lack of remorse.
Nothing in there about specifically 1st degree murder - and you require a person who has been wrongfully convicted to be executed for not being sorry for the crime that they did not commit.
You know where else people are punished for not showing "proper" emotions?
A "freaking Libertarian", huh? Good for you. Y'all seem like real sweethearts. Sign me up. I'm an Independent and I didn't realize we had a "side" for pro death. I guess libertarians can jump to the conclusion that they know where someone stands politically too.
I find your view of the death penalty heartless and based on more emotion rather than facts. If I mistook you for being an extreme leftie it is because what you said resembles what Socialists and Communists have implemented throughout history. Which, is that when you are an undesirable person and no longer a benefit to society, you are a drain, have no value, and should be killed for the greater good of society.
Yep - just like the death panels in ObamaCare - throw grandma under the bus.
Not all "psychopaths" are in jail or prison.....in fact, it seems that most are NOT. They are the very charming person who has shallow emotions, who cannot empathize, is coldhearted, and who can very easily manipulate others because they are so charming (at least at a superficial level).
For something to be closed - it must have been first opened.
So, what is being "closed" when an execution takes place?
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. I'm an Independent and I didn't realize we had a "side" for pro death. I guess libertarians can jump to the conclusion that they know where someone stands politically too. 
