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The highlight of tonight's debate and the most talked about point is when Obama made the statement "The day after the attack, governor, I stood in the Rose Garden and I told the American people in the world that we are going to find out exactly what happened -- that this was an act of terror -- and I also said that we're going to hunt down those who committed this crime."
Afterwards, Willard rebutted with one of the top right wing propaganda lies that's been making the rounds that Obama didn't state until weeks later that it was a terror attack.
Once the moderator confirmed that Obama, in fact did state it was a terror attack, Obama then said to the extent for her to say it again and a louder, which was a grand slam rubbing Willard's face in a pile of dog crap.
While the democrats were high-fiving each-other, the right wing propaganda machine went ballistic, continuing to spread the lie into insanity mode and attacking the moderator with horrific and nasty comments.
In the end, Candy was 100% correct, Obama did, in fact, state it was a terror attack on the first day.
I have. Repeatedly. I know legalese when I see it. For many years, I reviewed (and wrote) company policy and procedure manuals for small to midsize companies nationwide. I know a tweaked term when I see one, believe me.
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Nitpick if you want for political gain. It's not unusual of Republicans and Republican supporters.
Everyone does this - Democrats and Republicans alike - especially during an election year. Does the phrase "binders full of women" ring a bell with you?
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He referred to an attack which killed 4 Americans and which was said to be motivated by radical Islam- an act of terror.
Oh, you must mean a TERRORIST ATTACK.
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He and his administration has basically said that 4 Americans were killed over radical Islamic motives, and we're going to get justice for them. Most Americans are ok with that bottom line explanation.
No, I don't believe that "most Americans are ok" with this. If that was the case, there wouldn't be such an outcry from so many Americans.
By the way, if Obama and his administration hadn't gone on a media blitz for nearly two weeks AFTER his Rose Garden speech, trying to convince everyone in the world that this "act of terror" was DIRECTLY RELATED to a ridiculous video produced by an American, people would probably have never taken a second look at his Rose Garden speech.
Save your pity for Obama when he gets to debate his Administration's foreign policy Monday night.
I am not an obama voter so I don't care how he handles it, if it's even brought up. I am telling you need to find something better if you want to have a real argument. This "horrible" vs "terrible" approach is a joke.
Then you know that he spoke on Benghazi just before the acts of terror comments AND you know that he immediately followed the acts of terror comments with outrage over the 4 deaths. Thus you know that it is a LIE to say that that section of his speech had nothing to do with Benghazi.
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No, I don't believe that "most Americans are ok" with this. If that was the case, there wouldn't be such an outcry from so many Americans.
There is an outcry from Republican supporters looking to nitpick and take advantage of the 4 deaths for political gain. The rest of the nation is focued on the fact that 4 Americans were killed with radical Islamic motives, that the administration basically told us that, and that the administration is investigating so as to go after the radical Islamists who are responsible. Nitpicking over the semantics of what it was called is a Republican game meant to score Republican political points. This is even further evidenced by the perpetuation of the lie that that part of the speech had nothing to do with Benghazi WHEN OBAMA SPOKE OF THE 4 DEAD AMERICANS IMMEDIATELY AFTER MAKING THE ACTS OF TERROR REFERENCE.
But you say you read the transcripts, so then you KNOW Obama spoke of the 4 dead Americans and outrage over it immediately after using the acts of terror phrase. They were back to back sentences. Are you going to suggest that the sentence about the 4 dead Americans likewise had nothing to do with Benghazi, since THAT was ALSO in that same part of his speech?
These Republican games have become blatantly obvious to the general public by now. The 4 dead American sentence immediately followed the acts of terror phrase, so it was in the same part of the speech AS the acts of terror phrase. What was he referring to when speaking of the 4 dead Americans immediately after the acts of terror sentence? Do Republicans DARE answer THAT question? Not if they want to keep their charade and lies going.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America.
I am not an obama voter so I don't care how he handles it, if it's even brought up. I am telling you need to find something better if you want to have a real argument. This "horrible" vs "terrible" approach is a joke.
I have made it clear that the issue is not simply this one phrase used in one speech, but rather this phrase in conjunction with the administration's ongoing attempt to link the "act of terror" with a ridiculous video and non existent "spontaneous protest."
Every time you post without including the paragraph preceding these paragraphs you show that you are stacking the deck.
Okay, I'll post Obama's entire speech from the very beginning to the point at which he blames the Benghazi attack on "the denigration of religious beliefs"...
"Good Morning. Everyday all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interest and values of our nation.Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes in great, great danger.
Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.
The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.
Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutelyno justification to *this* type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts."
Obama blamed the attack on an anti-Muslim youtube video.
And thus ascribed radical Islamic motives to the attack. When you say Americans were killed unjustly and you ascribe radical Islamic motives to the deaths and call it an act of terror- most people get what you're saying. Republicans, however, nitpick and try to take advantage of the deaths for political gain.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America.
Republican sympathizers- WHAT four Americans? Was Obama not talking about the four killed in the Benghazi attack?
Obama characterized it as a brutal outrageous shocking attack of terror committed by murderers
He called them "brutal acts." He did notcall it a ' brutal outrageous shocking attack of terror committed by murderers.'
"Good Morning. Everyday all across the world, American diplomats and civilians work tirelessly to advance the interest and values of our nation.Often, they are away from their families. Sometimes in great, great danger.
Yesterday, four of these extraordinary Americans were killed in an attack on our diplomatic post in Benghazi. Among those killed was our Ambassador, Chris Stevens, as well as Foreign Service Officer Sean Smith. We are still notifying the families of the others who were killed. And today, the American people stand united in holding the families of the four Americans in our thoughts and in our prayers.
The United States condemns in the strongest terms this outrageous and shocking attack. We're working with the government of Libya to secure our diplomats. I've also directed my administration to increase our security at diplomatic posts around the world. And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people.
Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutelyno justification to *this* type of senseless violence. None. The world must stand together to unequivocally reject these brutal acts."
And thus ascribed radical Islamic motives to the attack. When you say Americans were killed unjustly and you ascribe radical Islamic motives to the deaths and call it an act of terror- most people get what you're saying. Republicans, however, nitpick and try to take advantage of the deaths for political gain.
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America.
Republican sympathizers- WHAT four Americans? Was Obama not talking about the four killed in the Benghazi attack?
Obama said we mourn the four because of a "terrible act" by "killers", not a terrorist attack by terrorists.
He called them "brutal acts." He did notcall it a ' brutal outrageous shocking attack of terror committed by murderers.'
No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America.
Republican sympathizers- WHAT four Americans? Was Obama not talking about the four killed in the Benghazi attack? In this part of his Rose Garden speech where he mentions acts of terror AND mourning the four Americans, did this part of his speech REALLY have absolutely NOTHING to do with Benghazi as so many Republicans have claimed? Or are the Republicans who have claimed that dead wrong about it, and dead wrong while having the transcripts available to SEE that they are dead wrong?
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